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From a purely US perspective, we had a fairly large percentage of the population and political representation vocally against taking precautions. One notable ex

From a purely US perspective, we had a fairly large percentage of the population and political representation vocally against taking precautions. One notable example: "The lieutenant governor of Texas argued in an interview on Fox News Monday night that the United States should go back to work, saying grandparents like him don’t want to sacrifice the country’s economy during the coronavirus crisis." [1] [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/24/covid-19-texas-official-suggests-elderly-willing-die-economy/2905990001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/24/covid-...

junofan 4y ago
How does people voicing opinions change the fact that there were lockdowns, masks, and vaccines?
- veec_cas_tant 4y ago
  Maybe I don't understand the question? I'm saying that there were a sizable amount of people that viewed those measures as unnecessary and thus viewed the natural number of deaths as acceptable. I'm not arguing the positions, just stating that many people viewed precautions as worse than the outcomes of those who got COVID. A secondary point perhaps is that some locations did not have lockdowns or masks for the most part and still have low vaccine numbers. Some locations may have shut down schools at the beginning of 2020 but decided that even masks in schools were a step too far by August 2020. The US response varied wildly depending on location.
Animats 4y ago
That was back in 2020. The current version is the "Pandemic is Over Act", H.R. 382.[1] This is the "declare a victory and go home" approach. There's progress in nasal spray vaccines, but they're not really ready yet. There's one that that works in monkeys.[2] Human Phase I testing is starting. China and India have approved nasal vaccines.[3] Effectiveness is maybe 50%. Too soon to tell how fast immunity falls off. The US government is not funding work in this area.[4] If an effective nasal spray vaccine is developed, even if it has a short immunity period, that could work. It might mean quarterly sprays. (COVID-19 antibody levels seem to drop off after about 90 days, which is why people get COVID multiple times.) [1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/382 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/382 [2] https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/covid-nasal-vaccines https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/covid-nasal-vaccines [3] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02851-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02851-0 [4] https://archive.is/fSkM2 https://archive.is/fSkM2

junofan 4y ago

How does people voicing opinions change the fact that there were lockdowns, masks, and vaccines?

veec_cas_tant 4y ago
Maybe I don't understand the question? I'm saying that there were a sizable amount of people that viewed those measures as unnecessary and thus viewed the natural number of deaths as acceptable. I'm not arguing the positions, just stating that many people viewed precautions as worse than the outcomes of those who got COVID. A secondary point perhaps is that some locations did not have lockdowns or masks for the most part and still have low vaccine numbers. Some locations may have shut down schools at the beginning of 2020 but decided that even masks in schools were a step too far by August 2020. The US response varied wildly depending on location.

Animats 4y ago

That was back in 2020. The current version is the "Pandemic is Over Act", H.R. 382.[1] This is the "declare a victory and go home" approach. There's progress in nasal spray vaccines, but they're not really ready yet. There's one that that works in monkeys.[2] Human Phase I testing is starting. China and India have approved nasal vaccines.[3] Effectiveness is maybe 50%. Too soon to tell how fast immunity falls off. The US government is not funding work in this area.[4] If an effective nasal spray vaccine is developed, even if it has a short immunity period, that could work. It might mean quarterly sprays. (COVID-19 antibody levels seem to drop off after about 90 days, which is why people get COVID multiple times.) [1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/382 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/382 [2] https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/covid-nasal-vaccines https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/covid-nasal-vaccines [3] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02851-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02851-0 [4] https://archive.is/fSkM2 https://archive.is/fSkM2