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WHO updates critical medicines list for radiological and nuclear emergencies
- kornhole 4y agoWho knows where to get these in the SF bay area? The clock is ticking close.
- adrianN 4y agoYour doctor's office will be able to help you find a specialist in case of acute radiation poisoning.
- defrost 4y agoProbably best to book ahead, there's likely to be a rush on.
- greesil 4y agoAlso, the doctor's office or pharmacy may not exist.
- whatshisface 4y agoWe'll just ask the neutrons to wait for the next available new patient appointment.
- harvey9 4y agoIn a mass casualty incident I think specialists will be working under the direction of FEMA.
- nix23 4y agoJust buy lots of redwine. It's enough.
- lgats 4y agoComponents of a pharmaceutical stockpile for radiation emergencies This publication focuses on pharmaceuticals for treating radiation exposure and addresses the governance and management of such a stockpile. A typical radiation emergency stockpile will include the following medicines: Stable iodine, administered to prevent or reduce the exposure of the thyroid to radioactive iodine; Chelating sand decorporating agents (Prussian blue, applied to remove radioactive caesium from the body and calcium- / zinc-DTPA used to treat internal contamination with transuranium radionuclides); Cytokines used for mitigation of damage to the bone marrow, in case of acute radiation syndrome (ARS); and Other medicines used to treat vomiting, diarrhoea and infections.
- perihelions 4y agoHow on earth do they expect typical governments to distribute hundreds of thousands of doses of things which are recommended to be administered within <24h? This document seems... aspirational. Also, how do you reconcile "shelter in place" with "seek prophylactic medical care"? They're pure contradictions. If you're exposed to unknown fallout, do you run outdoors again right away to find chelators, or do you delay that and risk irreversible damage? Maybe the most reasonable thing would be to distribute most of these things to households in advance. Like the way they distribute KI near nuclear power plants, except to everyone.
- sterlind 4y agoI'm assuming this is not in case of nuclear war, because there's no way any doses of anything would get deployed to ordinary civilians in the first few weeks at least. you also probably can't distribute cytokines and colony stimulators ahead of time. probably the thing to do is make sure everyone has good basic PPE, bottled water, and maybe a basic rad badge, and only seek medical care if you know you've been exposed to high levels of radiation.
- perihelions 4y agoI'm looking particularly at KI and the chelating agents, which are ordinary shelf-stable things. The point of these is to prevent biological absorption of particular elements in fallout, so either you have them available right away, or it's a lost opportunity. - "Time of treatment initiation: DTPA should be administered as soon as possible after exposure, ideally within the first 24h. If early administration is not possible, therapy can be initiated at any time; however, the efficacy decreases substantially when radionuclides are deposited in the bone and other organs (47, 48)." - "The optimal period of administration of stable iodine is < 24 h before and ≤ 2 h after the expected onset of exposure."
- adrian_b 4y agoK iodide (KI) is not completely shelf stable, it oxidizes slowly in air (into elemental iodine, which is unsuitable to be ingested as a iodine source for humans). K iodate (KIO3) is completely shelf stable, but it can be unpleasant when taken in very large doses.
- UberFly 4y agoThey skipped right over Deathclaws. What's the best medicine against those?
- FooHentai 4y agoPatrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
- chongli 4y agoAvenger minigun with a whole whack of ammo.
- david2ndaccount 4y agoPlasma rifle aimed at the eyes
- Scoundreller 4y agoI don't have much faith of any country doing a good job at this. Canada built up federal and provincial stockpiles of N95s after SARS1 (2003), and destroyed those N95s without replenishing them once they expired... (and if it's not obvious, didn't rotate stock to avoid expiration entirely) https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/heath-minister-emergency-stockpile-1.5530081 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/heath-minister-e... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-canada-supplies-ex-idUSKBN20W2OG https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-canada... I live close enough to a nuclear plant to have government-provided iodine tablets on-hand, but nobody's given me free N95s to... you know, not breathe in radioactive dust.
- ChuckNorris89 4y agoHold the phone, how do N95 masks even expire if stored properly? What causes their fibers to decay? >destroyed those N95s without replenishing them once they expired Whenever I'll do something stupid, I'll remind myself of this action of the Canadian government to comfort myself. Did they at least learn the lesson after COVID to keep their stocks up for the next once in a lifetime pandemic?
- dopidopHN 4y agoI think the French did the same or close. Fist scandal was having piles and piles of vaccines and masks for the H5N1 flue. Second waves was discovering that said piles ( of masks ) were gone. Part of the French social contract is based on having a strong state, that is somewhat competent at providing basic shit. ( in exchange for all the ailes of a strong state ) That was not a glorious moment
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- Havoc 4y agoI keep some random amazon iodine on hand since the cost/potential benefit seems favourable on that. Outside of that it doesn't seem like there is much the average person can do without going full prepper
- maxerickson 4y agoThere's not huge downside to taking once, but for adults the benefit isn't huge either. Especially as you get older (like older than 40 they only recommend it for highly exposed people). There is a huge protective effect in young children, especially young infants. https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/emergencies/ki.htm#How_to_Take https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/emergencies/ki.htm#How_to...
- thepangolino 4y agoIn Belgium Iodine tablets are freely and for free available in all pharmacies. All you need is show up with an ID (this is to prevent hoarding) They will give you a box with enough doses for 2 adults and 3 children for free. Now if only this system existed for all WHO essential medicines... The covid pandemic would have played out differently...
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- consumer451 4y agoI see one benefit from more people finally realizing that nuclear war might affect them, and be bad. I ain't no hippie, but I really hope this translates into global nuclear disarmament once Russian imperialism is vanquished. Nuclear weapons are as sane a problem solving tool as a suicide pact.
- andromeduck 4y agoWithout nuclear weapons, direct conventional war is far more likely.
- consumer451 4y agoThanks for replying. While I agree, direct conventional war has a much lower likelihood of ending civilization. To be very cold about it, sure lots of people will die in direct conventional war, but they would be measured in the hundreds of thousands, not tens or hundreds of millions. Conventional war is also localized. Imagine the global economic effects (not just $, but say food and fertilizer distribution) of having clouds of fallout circling the planet. COVID lock-down ^10? ^100? ^1000?
- throwaway4aday 4y ago> not tens or hundreds of millions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#:~:text=An%20estimated%20total%20of%2070,war%2Drelated%20disease%20and%20famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#:~:tex.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties I wonder if there's an analogous metric to wtfpm that applies to historical ignorance because it sure as hell seems to be increasing lately.
- consumer451 4y agoI personally just don't see conventional war going to those numbers today, unless we completely unravel economic interdependence.
- morpheos137 4y agoWhy are people so cavalier about the prospects of nuclear war these days? Why are discussions about the Ukraine conflict so dishonest? I can list the ways if anybody wants. It truly boggles the mind how easily led people are on false premises. As Goebbles would call it the "Big Lie..."
- HybridCurve 4y agoFWIW, the Kremlin's current social media campaign has been recently focusing on encouraging fear of nuclear warfare in the West in response to supplying tanks to Ukraine. I've seen a number of posts across several platforms since Tuesday with leading topics that inevitably devolve in threads laundering FUD.
- puffoflogic 4y agoHow much should we trust or care about the WHO critical medicine lists, given that ivermectin is on there too? Seems like a bunch of anti-vaxx nonsense to me.