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If the goal is to increase population at a higher rate significant tax breaks would certainly help, though perhaps not enough. Immigration also needs to be exam

If the goal is to increase population at a higher rate significant tax breaks would certainly help, though perhaps not enough. Immigration also needs to be examined.

nonethewiser 4y ago
There is no shortage of immigrant supply though. The US is already using immigration to grow.
- randomdata 4y ago
  Which means that there is no mass benefit to producing children domestically. There is individual benefit to producing children domestically, sure, but why would the masses care to provide for the benefit of an individual?
  - cudgy 4y ago
    So that the masses are supported by the younger when they retire through contributions to public pension like social security?
    - randomdata 4y ago
      The comment before just got finished saying that there is an endless supply of immigrants willing to do that…
      - cudgy 4y ago
        An endless supply? Other countries require workers to support their elderly as well. Are the immigrants going to leave their elderly behind to starve and suffer with no support from their younger generations? Or will they bring their elderly with them, nullifying the benefits?
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        randomdata 4y ago
        Good questions, but you must have pressed the wrong reply button again. This is beyond the scope of this thread branch and not subject matter I have knowledge of. I already pointed out this error in the previous comment.
- etempleton 4y ago
  There is quickly becoming a shortage of workers. There are two mechanisms to cover that gap: 1. Encourage families to have more children (this takes time) 2. Increase the by country limits on immigration. This has varied over time (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Ann...)
cratermoon 4y ago
However, there are powerful political forces against immigration as a way to increase the population. That's before we even get to the extremist racist "great replacement" resistance to immigration.
- cudgy 4y ago
  Too much immigration is destabilizing to both the receiving and losing countries.
  - cratermoon 4y ago
    It certainly destabilized the indigenous societies of the Americas, starting in the 16th century.
    - cudgy 4y ago
      That more closely resembles an invasion than immigration, but it is an extreme form of immigration I guess.

If the goal is to increase population at a higher rate significant tax breaks would certainly help, though perhaps not enough. Immigration also needs to be examined.

nonethewiser 4y ago

There is no shortage of immigrant supply though. The US is already using immigration to grow.

randomdata 4y ago
Which means that there is no mass benefit to producing children domestically. There is individual benefit to producing children domestically, sure, but why would the masses care to provide for the benefit of an individual?
- cudgy 4y ago
  So that the masses are supported by the younger when they retire through contributions to public pension like social security?
  - randomdata 4y ago
    The comment before just got finished saying that there is an endless supply of immigrants willing to do that…
    - cudgy 4y ago
      An endless supply? Other countries require workers to support their elderly as well. Are the immigrants going to leave their elderly behind to starve and suffer with no support from their younger generations? Or will they bring their elderly with them, nullifying the benefits?
      - deleted 4y ago
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      - randomdata 4y ago
        Good questions, but you must have pressed the wrong reply button again. This is beyond the scope of this thread branch and not subject matter I have knowledge of. I already pointed out this error in the previous comment.
etempleton 4y ago
There is quickly becoming a shortage of workers. There are two mechanisms to cover that gap: 1. Encourage families to have more children (this takes time) 2. Increase the by country limits on immigration. This has varied over time (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Ann...)

cratermoon 4y ago

However, there are powerful political forces against immigration as a way to increase the population. That's before we even get to the extremist racist "great replacement" resistance to immigration.

cudgy 4y ago
Too much immigration is destabilizing to both the receiving and losing countries.
- cratermoon 4y ago
  It certainly destabilized the indigenous societies of the Americas, starting in the 16th century.
  - cudgy 4y ago
    That more closely resembles an invasion than immigration, but it is an extreme form of immigration I guess.