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> I really don't understand the outrage on that decision What decision are you claiming people were outraged? Because the actual reason people where outraged

> I really don't understand the outrage on that decision What decision are you claiming people were outraged? Because the actual reason people where outraged is the very existence of the magic 30th edition in the first place. It is one of the clearest and starkest examples of a company disrespecting it's customer, ever.

undreren 4y ago
Also the fact that WotC has promised over and over that these cards would never get reprints, not even non-tournament legal reprints.
- boomboomsubban 4y ago
  As of at least 2016, I'm not checking older ones, non-tournament legal reprints have been acceptable under their reprint rules. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/official-reprint-policy https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/official-rep...
boomboomsubban 4y ago
>. It is one of the clearest and starkest examples of a company disrespecting it's customer, ever. Why? Compare it to some other fanbases. With music, printing a super pricy limited edition of an album with extra non-music content is a normal decision. With sneakers, that's like the entire market. With comic books limited edition posters and figures are commonplace. So many fandoms have outlets for the rich megafans that the average fan can just ignore without any real issue. Why is it disrespecting the customer? I can understand disliking the side sets having chase cards that are necessary for some formats, and could see those as disrespecting the customer, but not these.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  "We had to create an experience for fans new and old that would be worthy of three decades of the original trading card game." doesn't fit a 250 dollar pack of non-cards. If it was real very rare cards, there would be upset but they could have made it work. If it was non-cardlike collectibles, it would have been fine. But to sell non-legal cards at such a high price is so much the opposite of the community celebration they were pushing for overall. And the last time they sold something like this, it was the entire set and it wasn't expensive. Even if that was a long time ago. And wizards constantly pretends that all their pieces of cardboard have similar value, so it's extra obnoxious whenever they price something like this. But this one in particular is an order of magnitude worse even if we forget for a second they aren't legal cards. And various ways of playing the game are actively dying because it's so hard to get cards like this, which just adds salt.

undreren 4y ago

Also the fact that WotC has promised over and over that these cards would never get reprints, not even non-tournament legal reprints.

boomboomsubban 4y ago
As of at least 2016, I'm not checking older ones, non-tournament legal reprints have been acceptable under their reprint rules. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/official-reprint-policy https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/official-rep...

boomboomsubban 4y ago

>. It is one of the clearest and starkest examples of a company disrespecting it's customer, ever. Why? Compare it to some other fanbases. With music, printing a super pricy limited edition of an album with extra non-music content is a normal decision. With sneakers, that's like the entire market. With comic books limited edition posters and figures are commonplace. So many fandoms have outlets for the rich megafans that the average fan can just ignore without any real issue. Why is it disrespecting the customer? I can understand disliking the side sets having chase cards that are necessary for some formats, and could see those as disrespecting the customer, but not these.

Dylan16807 4y ago
"We had to create an experience for fans new and old that would be worthy of three decades of the original trading card game." doesn't fit a 250 dollar pack of non-cards. If it was real very rare cards, there would be upset but they could have made it work. If it was non-cardlike collectibles, it would have been fine. But to sell non-legal cards at such a high price is so much the opposite of the community celebration they were pushing for overall. And the last time they sold something like this, it was the entire set and it wasn't expensive. Even if that was a long time ago. And wizards constantly pretends that all their pieces of cardboard have similar value, so it's extra obnoxious whenever they price something like this. But this one in particular is an order of magnitude worse even if we forget for a second they aren't legal cards. And various ways of playing the game are actively dying because it's so hard to get cards like this, which just adds salt.