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Why would an oven need Internet access? You physically need to open the oven and put stuff in it and then take it out. Food over IP is not a thing yet. Unless

Why would an oven need Internet access? You physically need to open the oven and put stuff in it and then take it out. Food over IP is not a thing yet. Unless it has an internal camera with which you can observe the food while it's cooking, I see no advantage of using an Internet connected oven. edit: okay, preheat, fair - that's actually useful

harveywi 4y ago
The electromagnetic radiation from the wi-fi antenna helps the food cook more quickly.
simonsarris 4y ago
I'm against stuff like this and totally eschew even offline gadgets, but its not that hard to come up with some use cases. After you left the house: "Did I turn off the oven? Did I turn off a burner (eg slowly cooking a bean bot)?" Now you can know. Is a (top or interior or anywhere) burner slowly leaking and should alert the owner? Maybe. And as you said, pre-heating, though this is actually a feature that makes things more dangerous! If you or someone else was temporarily storing something not-ovenable in the oven and pre-heated remotely, you could come home to something very bad.
- nerdponx 4y ago
  I'd much rather have the oven connect to a physical device on my home LAN instead, which I could then access through a web interface with a tunneled port or whatever. Same with security cameras, smart lightbulbs, etc. None of this stuff should ever be connecting to the Internet directly.
- rcme 4y ago
  You could add a camera to the oven to see what's inside from the app.
  - Finnucane 4y ago
    "How did that batch of cookies get in there?"
- cbm-vic-20 4y ago
  I wouldn't mind having "read-only" or "make-safe" functionality: in addition to "Did I turn off the oven?" above, things like timer and burner status would be nice. A "Turn off oven NOW" button on an app would be an example of "make-safe". Worst case situation is that your dinner is undercooked.
pphysch 4y ago
Preheat, give warnings, etc. All potentially lethal/flammable objects in your household would probably benefit from some kind of remote monitoring capability, assuming you can do that securely.
sizzzzlerz 4y ago
Maybe they're preparing for a ST:TNG future where you can use an app to tell your food replicator to make tea, Earl Grey, hot while you're arriving home.
dfxm12 4y ago
Why would an oven need Internet access? So Frigidaire, or whoever, can sell data about how and when you use your oven. Maybe this info will be used to show you ads for turkeys on your phone, or even on the oven if future versions have screens. If one's life is such a blur that they can't wait the 20 min it takes to preheat the oven, with the risks that comes with (is there something already in there that you don't know about, like a flammable cleanser, etc.) then I dunno. I think they can find other things in their lives much more useful.
- sizzzzlerz 4y ago
  Not to mention most ovens have the ability to schedule pre-heating your oven to a set temp at a later time just using the oven controls.
- barbazoo 4y ago
  Who buys such data and why I wonder.
MrOwnPut 4y ago
> "Oh no did I leave the oven!?" Opens app.. "whoops I did, toggle off" > "Oh I'll have to cook soon" Opens app.. "start preheating to x degrees, notify when ready" > "Oh how long do I have left on my roast? Opens app... "ok cool 30 minutes, I'll continue my workout." I mean... putting the food in is only one short step in the very long process of an oven.
- stuaxo 4y ago
  Give phone to child to entertain them - come home to find out they have somehow turned the oven on hours ago. OT- give a two year old child a device and watch them crash it just by jabbing their finger at it.
  - MrOwnPut 4y ago
    If you can only preheat and toggle off remotely that couldn't happen. The preheat could just auto turn off if you don't proceed. They can also play with the oven at home too. You should teach them not to do those things. If for some reason you can't teach them to use your phone responsibly then don't hand off your phone unsupervised. All that being said, plenty of people don't have kids...
  - lelandfe 4y ago
    > watch them crash it just by jabbing their finger at it "Organic fuzzing"
  - Asooka 4y ago
    Not to mention, if you have a child at home, you can just call them to turn the oven on.
    - IshKebab 4y ago
      Where are these magical children that reliably obey commands at any time?
- barbazoo 4y ago
  Interesting those are totally valid use cases but I would NEVER use those through a vendor specific app/cloud. Only locally connected to Home Assistant or something like that via MQTT or some other protocol. I wouldn't want someone from the outside turning my oven on or worse, start the super hot cleaning cycle when I don't expect it the same way I wouldn't want someone having control over my front door or garage.
abruzzi 4y ago
not a internet thing, but some Jenn Air ovens had (and maybe still have) a "sabbath mode". Observant Jews would prepare their Saturday dinner, place it in the oven before sundown on Friday, then the oven would turn iself on sometime on Saturday afternoon to begin to cook the food so it would be ready at sundown on Saturday. A similar use could be used for internet connectivity. not for people skirting sabbath rules, but someone that has the turkey in the oven but doesn't know when exactly they'll get home to eat, but want to start baking it while you're away. Not saying that is a likely of common need, but it could happen.
- jeffffff 4y ago
  i have jenn air appliances and tried to connect to my dishwasher solely because i was curious as to why anyone would want their dishwasher to be connected to the internet. i could never get it to actually work, so i am still in the dark as to what i am missing out on in the world of internet connected dishwashers.
vel0city 4y ago
Many fancy ovens have temperature probes which relate to cooking profiles you can use as well. Being able to actually look at a glance how the roast is doing would be nice. Sure, one could also do this with another device, but having it all integrated is cool.

harveywi 4y ago

The electromagnetic radiation from the wi-fi antenna helps the food cook more quickly.

simonsarris 4y ago

I'm against stuff like this and totally eschew even offline gadgets, but its not that hard to come up with some use cases. After you left the house: "Did I turn off the oven? Did I turn off a burner (eg slowly cooking a bean bot)?" Now you can know. Is a (top or interior or anywhere) burner slowly leaking and should alert the owner? Maybe. And as you said, pre-heating, though this is actually a feature that makes things more dangerous! If you or someone else was temporarily storing something not-ovenable in the oven and pre-heated remotely, you could come home to something very bad.

nerdponx 4y ago
I'd much rather have the oven connect to a physical device on my home LAN instead, which I could then access through a web interface with a tunneled port or whatever. Same with security cameras, smart lightbulbs, etc. None of this stuff should ever be connecting to the Internet directly.
rcme 4y ago
You could add a camera to the oven to see what's inside from the app.
- Finnucane 4y ago
  "How did that batch of cookies get in there?"
cbm-vic-20 4y ago
I wouldn't mind having "read-only" or "make-safe" functionality: in addition to "Did I turn off the oven?" above, things like timer and burner status would be nice. A "Turn off oven NOW" button on an app would be an example of "make-safe". Worst case situation is that your dinner is undercooked.

pphysch 4y ago

Preheat, give warnings, etc. All potentially lethal/flammable objects in your household would probably benefit from some kind of remote monitoring capability, assuming you can do that securely.

sizzzzlerz 4y ago

Maybe they're preparing for a ST:TNG future where you can use an app to tell your food replicator to make tea, Earl Grey, hot while you're arriving home.

dfxm12 4y ago

Why would an oven need Internet access? So Frigidaire, or whoever, can sell data about how and when you use your oven. Maybe this info will be used to show you ads for turkeys on your phone, or even on the oven if future versions have screens. If one's life is such a blur that they can't wait the 20 min it takes to preheat the oven, with the risks that comes with (is there something already in there that you don't know about, like a flammable cleanser, etc.) then I dunno. I think they can find other things in their lives much more useful.

sizzzzlerz 4y ago
Not to mention most ovens have the ability to schedule pre-heating your oven to a set temp at a later time just using the oven controls.
barbazoo 4y ago
Who buys such data and why I wonder.

MrOwnPut 4y ago

> "Oh no did I leave the oven!?" Opens app.. "whoops I did, toggle off" > "Oh I'll have to cook soon" Opens app.. "start preheating to x degrees, notify when ready" > "Oh how long do I have left on my roast? Opens app... "ok cool 30 minutes, I'll continue my workout." I mean... putting the food in is only one short step in the very long process of an oven.

stuaxo 4y ago
Give phone to child to entertain them - come home to find out they have somehow turned the oven on hours ago. OT- give a two year old child a device and watch them crash it just by jabbing their finger at it.
- MrOwnPut 4y ago
  If you can only preheat and toggle off remotely that couldn't happen. The preheat could just auto turn off if you don't proceed. They can also play with the oven at home too. You should teach them not to do those things. If for some reason you can't teach them to use your phone responsibly then don't hand off your phone unsupervised. All that being said, plenty of people don't have kids...
- lelandfe 4y ago
  > watch them crash it just by jabbing their finger at it "Organic fuzzing"
- Asooka 4y ago
  Not to mention, if you have a child at home, you can just call them to turn the oven on.
  - IshKebab 4y ago
    Where are these magical children that reliably obey commands at any time?
barbazoo 4y ago
Interesting those are totally valid use cases but I would NEVER use those through a vendor specific app/cloud. Only locally connected to Home Assistant or something like that via MQTT or some other protocol. I wouldn't want someone from the outside turning my oven on or worse, start the super hot cleaning cycle when I don't expect it the same way I wouldn't want someone having control over my front door or garage.

abruzzi 4y ago

not a internet thing, but some Jenn Air ovens had (and maybe still have) a "sabbath mode". Observant Jews would prepare their Saturday dinner, place it in the oven before sundown on Friday, then the oven would turn iself on sometime on Saturday afternoon to begin to cook the food so it would be ready at sundown on Saturday. A similar use could be used for internet connectivity. not for people skirting sabbath rules, but someone that has the turkey in the oven but doesn't know when exactly they'll get home to eat, but want to start baking it while you're away. Not saying that is a likely of common need, but it could happen.

jeffffff 4y ago
i have jenn air appliances and tried to connect to my dishwasher solely because i was curious as to why anyone would want their dishwasher to be connected to the internet. i could never get it to actually work, so i am still in the dark as to what i am missing out on in the world of internet connected dishwashers.

vel0city 4y ago

Many fancy ovens have temperature probes which relate to cooking profiles you can use as well. Being able to actually look at a glance how the roast is doing would be nice. Sure, one could also do this with another device, but having it all integrated is cool.