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> all exist for good reasons Sure, but what's banned is surely not all medical or legal advice. I can browse case law or US code thinking about my case - some

by ovi256 4y ago

> all exist for good reasons Sure, but what's banned is surely not all medical or legal advice. I can browse case law or US code thinking about my case - somehow this does not need a legal license. At the other end of the continuum, talking to a lawyer about my case obviously needs him to be licensed. So now we're debating on which side of the cutoff using DoNotPay's robot must fall. The lawyers have made their mind ages ago that legal advice can only be dispensed by licensed humans.

inetknght 4y ago
> I can browse case law or US code thinking about my case - somehow this does not need a legal license. Of course. With rare exceptions, court proceedings are public. But being able to read court proceeds or judgements or anything at all doesn't mean that you know and understand the law. You know, the actual words that are written and codified that must be interpreted and adhered to with jurisprudence. Not that lawyers actually do either. But at least they've been certified (by "the bar" association) to have some competence in the matter.
- asvitkine 4y ago
  But on the other hand, one can't argue ignorance of the law so then everyone is supposed to already know all laws and understand them!
  - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
    I am strong believe that basics of law should be taught in school, especially criminal. If governmet will prosecute me for free (to the accuser), then it should, for free, teach me the law.
elil17 4y ago
I don't think and anyone is saying that using the bot is illegal. The issue is that DoNotPay is calling the bot a lawyer and therefor implying that it gives legal advice. Their website literally says "World's First Robot Lawyer." Someone who doesn't understand AI might wrongly think that their AI tools are qualified to represent them on their own. I suspect that it would be much less of an issue if it was advertised as an "AI paralegal."
dogleash 4y ago
>talking to a lawyer about my case obviously needs him to be licensed Why's that obvious tho? Shouldn't it be on you to decide if you want a licensed lawyer? Isn't that the point of your post?
freejazz 4y ago
Do you not understand the concept of advice? Browsing the law and coming to your own conclusion isn't "getting advice".
- ovi256 4y ago
  What if the DoNotPay bot does not give any advice, just points out existing cases that it finds appropriate and their interpretation in its search results ?

by ovi256 4y ago

inetknght 4y ago

> I can browse case law or US code thinking about my case - somehow this does not need a legal license. Of course. With rare exceptions, court proceedings are public. But being able to read court proceeds or judgements or anything at all doesn't mean that you know and understand the law. You know, the actual words that are written and codified that must be interpreted and adhered to with jurisprudence. Not that lawyers actually do either. But at least they've been certified (by "the bar" association) to have some competence in the matter.

asvitkine 4y ago
But on the other hand, one can't argue ignorance of the law so then everyone is supposed to already know all laws and understand them!
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  I am strong believe that basics of law should be taught in school, especially criminal. If governmet will prosecute me for free (to the accuser), then it should, for free, teach me the law.

elil17 4y ago

I don't think and anyone is saying that using the bot is illegal. The issue is that DoNotPay is calling the bot a lawyer and therefor implying that it gives legal advice. Their website literally says "World's First Robot Lawyer." Someone who doesn't understand AI might wrongly think that their AI tools are qualified to represent them on their own. I suspect that it would be much less of an issue if it was advertised as an "AI paralegal."

dogleash 4y ago

>talking to a lawyer about my case obviously needs him to be licensed Why's that obvious tho? Shouldn't it be on you to decide if you want a licensed lawyer? Isn't that the point of your post?

freejazz 4y ago

Do you not understand the concept of advice? Browsing the law and coming to your own conclusion isn't "getting advice".

ovi256 4y ago
What if the DoNotPay bot does not give any advice, just points out existing cases that it finds appropriate and their interpretation in its search results ?