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The tipping system causes harm.

seizethecheese 4y ago
It causes a minimal amount of harm. What proportion of the tip requests you get are from your first time buying from the establishment? It’s very low. After that, you know there’s a tip request and choose to return.
DrThunder 4y ago
Provide evidence based examples please.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  https://www.eater.com/a/case-against-tipping https://www.eater.com/a/case-against-tipping here's some
  - DrThunder 4y ago
    Propaganda aligning with a certain modern day cult and nothing but subjective anecdotes isn't proof of anything. First of all you'd have to PROVE the tipping difference is due to racism.... something this article fails completely at. Let's assume that people are actually tipping "people of color" worse. Do you think getting rid of tipping is somehow fixing this perceived racism? If so, why do you believe you can legislate a personality trait out of people?
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      > First of all you'd have to PROVE the tipping difference is due to racism.... No you don't. If tipped wages are more discriminatory you can ban them. Even if no racism is involved, somehow! And that's not trying to legislate a personality trait.
      - DrThunder 4y ago
        Yes you do, you do not get to just claim people are racist with no proof. Do you think it's a joke to make this claim? You're certainly treating it pretty nonchalantly. You're talking about taking jobs and money from a specific group of people so you can implement your ideological beliefs that have zero data to back them up. You haven't provided any proof this sort of racial tipping exists but you've certainly provided plenty of proof of wanting implement your own racist ideas to redistribute money from a very specific skin color, while claiming other skin colors are helpless victims.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        > Yes you do, you do not get to just claim people are racist with no proof. Do you think it's a joke to make this claim? You're certainly treating it pretty nonchalantly. I didn't say people were racist, I gave a link supporting the idea that tipping is harmful. See where I said "Even if no racism is involved, somehow!" Even if a lot of people.. look it doesn't matter for this topic. > You're talking about taking jobs and money from a specific group of people so you can implement your ideological beliefs that have zero data to back them up. Mostly I want to get rid of the idea of a tipped minimum, and fix some of the other issues around minimum wage. I don't want to take any jobs away. > You haven't provided any proof this sort of racial tipping exists but you've certainly provided plenty of proof of wanting implement your own racist ideas to redistribute money from a very specific skin color, while claiming other skin colors are helpless victims. You're reading a lot of things in my posts that aren't there. I just want all the waiters to get a good paycheck and make tips exceptional. "Pay everyone in the same job at the same tier the same amount" is not redistribution.

It causes a minimal amount of harm. What proportion of the tip requests you get are from your first time buying from the establishment? It’s very low. After that, you know there’s a tip request and choose to return.

DrThunder 4y ago

Provide evidence based examples please.

Dylan16807 4y ago
https://www.eater.com/a/case-against-tipping https://www.eater.com/a/case-against-tipping here's some
- DrThunder 4y ago
  Propaganda aligning with a certain modern day cult and nothing but subjective anecdotes isn't proof of anything. First of all you'd have to PROVE the tipping difference is due to racism.... something this article fails completely at. Let's assume that people are actually tipping "people of color" worse. Do you think getting rid of tipping is somehow fixing this perceived racism? If so, why do you believe you can legislate a personality trait out of people?
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    > First of all you'd have to PROVE the tipping difference is due to racism.... No you don't. If tipped wages are more discriminatory you can ban them. Even if no racism is involved, somehow! And that's not trying to legislate a personality trait.
    - DrThunder 4y ago
      Yes you do, you do not get to just claim people are racist with no proof. Do you think it's a joke to make this claim? You're certainly treating it pretty nonchalantly. You're talking about taking jobs and money from a specific group of people so you can implement your ideological beliefs that have zero data to back them up. You haven't provided any proof this sort of racial tipping exists but you've certainly provided plenty of proof of wanting implement your own racist ideas to redistribute money from a very specific skin color, while claiming other skin colors are helpless victims.
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        > Yes you do, you do not get to just claim people are racist with no proof. Do you think it's a joke to make this claim? You're certainly treating it pretty nonchalantly. I didn't say people were racist, I gave a link supporting the idea that tipping is harmful. See where I said "Even if no racism is involved, somehow!" Even if a lot of people.. look it doesn't matter for this topic. > You're talking about taking jobs and money from a specific group of people so you can implement your ideological beliefs that have zero data to back them up. Mostly I want to get rid of the idea of a tipped minimum, and fix some of the other issues around minimum wage. I don't want to take any jobs away. > You haven't provided any proof this sort of racial tipping exists but you've certainly provided plenty of proof of wanting implement your own racist ideas to redistribute money from a very specific skin color, while claiming other skin colors are helpless victims. You're reading a lot of things in my posts that aren't there. I just want all the waiters to get a good paycheck and make tips exceptional. "Pay everyone in the same job at the same tier the same amount" is not redistribution.