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This is your reminder that past Reddit powermods and hired staff allegedly include Ghislane Maxwell [0] (who Ellen Pao knew and socialized with in Pao's time as

This is your reminder that past Reddit powermods and hired staff allegedly include Ghislane Maxwell [0] (who Ellen Pao knew and socialized with in Pao's time as Reddit CEO [1]), alleged rape and kidnapping accomplice Aimee Challenor [2] (criticism of whose hiring Reddit censored for days before relenting), and convicted domestic abuser creeps like u/bardfinn who abuse their moderator powers and allegedly flood competing subreddits with CSAM material [3]. These people do not deserve anonymity, nor an assumption of good faith. [0] https://www.the-sun.com/news/4460492/ghislaine-maxwell-reddit-account-arrest/ https://www.the-sun.com/news/4460492/ghislaine-maxwell-reddi... [1] https://nypost.com/2020/07/08/ex-reddit-ceo-ellen-pao-knew-ghislaine-maxwell-allegations/ https://nypost.com/2020/07/08/ex-reddit-ceo-ellen-pao-knew-g... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Challenor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Challenor [3] https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/theres-another-abusive-male-at-reddit https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/theres-another-abusive-...

tadfisher 4y ago
The GM link is tenuous at best, and has never been proven.
- farmaway 4y ago
  There's a lot more evidence than covered in the linked article. I find it absolutely convincing. Here's a recap of most of it: https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/hnfx0r/not_confirmed_but_research_suggests_that/ https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/hnfx0r/not_conf...
realworldperson 4y ago
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threeseed 4y ago
No evidence that Ghislane Maxwell was a Reddit employee or moderator of any subreddits. No evidence that /u/bardfinn was posting CSAM. You may want to be careful because baseless accusations like this is libellous.
- farmaway 4y ago
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    - farmaway 4y ago
      Here's the relevance: when a privileged few extracts special concessions from the United States Supreme Court, the public deserves to know who they are and what they've been up to. I've posted verified facts along with relevant circumstantial evidence. It's telling that your reflex is to make threats and reach for the banhammer.
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- cooocoo 4y ago
  There is evidence for both of these, you just choose not to accept it. Also, Bardfinn is a particularly creepy guy who is also known for violence towards women, including his ex-wife. Is this libellous? There are police reports, you know.
phpisthebest 4y ago
>>These people do not deserve anonymity, nor an assumption of good faith. sorry no... We do not strip essential liberty simply because there are bad actors out there who abuse it. The problem is not these individuals persay. The problem is Reddits moderation system in the first place. That enables "power mods" and gives the community no power to remove bad mods, and creates corrupting incentive systems along with admins that further corrupt this system by bestowing favors and powers upon the mods they favor. This has been a problem since the start of reddit and could be solved if Reddit had any desire to stop it, they dont so reddit continues it path on becoming worse than Twitter (if it has not already beaten it)
- farmaway 4y ago
  >sorry no... We do not strip essential liberty simply because there are bad actors out there who abuse it. That's not at stake. What's at stake is the power of a privileged few to get special concessions from the United States Supreme Court.
- nradov 4y ago
  Anonymity is not an essential liberty. It appears nowhere in the US Constitution or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    Ohh yes it is an essential liberty, and the founders of this nation clearly thought so which is why they published their Federalist Papers advocating the ratification of the new constitution under Pseudonym, anonymously. Secondly I give no shits about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which is a terrible document and no one should respect it. It is an authoritarian power grab guised as freedom. Nothing the UN does is for freedom. Finally, the US Constitution is not an enumeration of rights, in fact Madison did not even want the Bill of Rights for fear people later in history would claim just as you are now that the Bill of Rights is the enumeration of all Human Rights. Which is why they added the 9th amendment. Perhaps you should read that one sometimes. it is pretty important and often ignored "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." -- Amendment IX
thepasswordis 4y ago
And don’t forget about violentacrez, the original power mod moderating a child exploitation subreddit (jailbait, which was a subreddit for posting sexually suggesting photos of children). They gave him an award for this and called “jailbait” subreddit of the year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities?useskin=vector#Jailbait https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti...
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dang 4y ago
Please don't use HN for this sort of pre-existing ideological drama battle or whatever this is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- farmaway 4y ago
  If you care about the guidelines, enforce them consistently. This is the comment which spurred me to start posting yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34480065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34480065 >Whatever your politics: The reactionary conservative movement, with its campaign to politicize everything (now working on the FBI and Department of Justice, for example), has permanently degraded the country; we won't have these institutions back for generations. It's such clear flamebait and "ideological battle"-ish that your reply to me, upthread from the above which sits there unflagged, feels like a slap in the face. In all likelihood I'd have gone on with my day if I hadn't stumbled on such a ridiculous, inflammatory, un-moderated comment. Incidentally, even my very clearly rule-following comments on this link appear flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34484182 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34484182 I'm used to old high-karma accounts with clear biases abusing user flags and community moderation features. It's much more frustrating to see arbitrary, inconsistent enforcement from actual moderators.
  - farmaway 4y ago
    And here's another bullshit flamebait comment, upvoted and unflagged. I won't bother to reply to this one. Will you take action? I will watch and take note. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34487518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34487518
    - dang 4y ago
      I've reflagged that comment. However, there's a big gap between that and what you were posting here. That user was clearly engaging in a conversation, albeit using flamebaity terminology, while you were pulling in wheelbarrows full of pre-existing talking points, complete with lists of links. That's obviously using the site for ideological battle and obviously off topic.

tadfisher 4y ago

The GM link is tenuous at best, and has never been proven.

farmaway 4y ago
There's a lot more evidence than covered in the linked article. I find it absolutely convincing. Here's a recap of most of it: https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/hnfx0r/not_confirmed_but_research_suggests_that/ https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/hnfx0r/not_conf...

realworldperson 4y ago

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threeseed 4y ago

No evidence that Ghislane Maxwell was a Reddit employee or moderator of any subreddits. No evidence that /u/bardfinn was posting CSAM. You may want to be careful because baseless accusations like this is libellous.

farmaway 4y ago
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- threeseed 4y ago
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  - farmaway 4y ago
    Here's the relevance: when a privileged few extracts special concessions from the United States Supreme Court, the public deserves to know who they are and what they've been up to. I've posted verified facts along with relevant circumstantial evidence. It's telling that your reflex is to make threats and reach for the banhammer.
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cooocoo 4y ago
There is evidence for both of these, you just choose not to accept it. Also, Bardfinn is a particularly creepy guy who is also known for violence towards women, including his ex-wife. Is this libellous? There are police reports, you know.

phpisthebest 4y ago

>>These people do not deserve anonymity, nor an assumption of good faith. sorry no... We do not strip essential liberty simply because there are bad actors out there who abuse it. The problem is not these individuals persay. The problem is Reddits moderation system in the first place. That enables "power mods" and gives the community no power to remove bad mods, and creates corrupting incentive systems along with admins that further corrupt this system by bestowing favors and powers upon the mods they favor. This has been a problem since the start of reddit and could be solved if Reddit had any desire to stop it, they dont so reddit continues it path on becoming worse than Twitter (if it has not already beaten it)

farmaway 4y ago
>sorry no... We do not strip essential liberty simply because there are bad actors out there who abuse it. That's not at stake. What's at stake is the power of a privileged few to get special concessions from the United States Supreme Court.
nradov 4y ago
Anonymity is not an essential liberty. It appears nowhere in the US Constitution or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  Ohh yes it is an essential liberty, and the founders of this nation clearly thought so which is why they published their Federalist Papers advocating the ratification of the new constitution under Pseudonym, anonymously. Secondly I give no shits about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which is a terrible document and no one should respect it. It is an authoritarian power grab guised as freedom. Nothing the UN does is for freedom. Finally, the US Constitution is not an enumeration of rights, in fact Madison did not even want the Bill of Rights for fear people later in history would claim just as you are now that the Bill of Rights is the enumeration of all Human Rights. Which is why they added the 9th amendment. Perhaps you should read that one sometimes. it is pretty important and often ignored "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." -- Amendment IX

thepasswordis 4y ago

And don’t forget about violentacrez, the original power mod moderating a child exploitation subreddit (jailbait, which was a subreddit for posting sexually suggesting photos of children). They gave him an award for this and called “jailbait” subreddit of the year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities?useskin=vector#Jailbait https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti...

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dang 4y ago

Please don't use HN for this sort of pre-existing ideological drama battle or whatever this is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

farmaway 4y ago
If you care about the guidelines, enforce them consistently. This is the comment which spurred me to start posting yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34480065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34480065 >Whatever your politics: The reactionary conservative movement, with its campaign to politicize everything (now working on the FBI and Department of Justice, for example), has permanently degraded the country; we won't have these institutions back for generations. It's such clear flamebait and "ideological battle"-ish that your reply to me, upthread from the above which sits there unflagged, feels like a slap in the face. In all likelihood I'd have gone on with my day if I hadn't stumbled on such a ridiculous, inflammatory, un-moderated comment. Incidentally, even my very clearly rule-following comments on this link appear flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34484182 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34484182 I'm used to old high-karma accounts with clear biases abusing user flags and community moderation features. It's much more frustrating to see arbitrary, inconsistent enforcement from actual moderators.
- farmaway 4y ago
  And here's another bullshit flamebait comment, upvoted and unflagged. I won't bother to reply to this one. Will you take action? I will watch and take note. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34487518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34487518
  - dang 4y ago
    I've reflagged that comment. However, there's a big gap between that and what you were posting here. That user was clearly engaging in a conversation, albeit using flamebaity terminology, while you were pulling in wheelbarrows full of pre-existing talking points, complete with lists of links. That's obviously using the site for ideological battle and obviously off topic.