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I did not see his company contribute to any positive side of the society so far. What actually AlphaGo accomplish other than killing the Go community?

devin 4y ago
AlphaGo in no way, shape, or form killed the go community. Stockfish hasn't killed the chess community, either.
- up2isomorphism 4y ago
  The fact is that much less kids or people playing Go now, and competitions are not getting nearly as much attention as before. Putting two strong statements without any evidence does not mean anything.
  - DennisP 4y ago
    In fairness, you just made two strong statements without evidence.
  - morelisp 4y ago
    The debate over the causes of (perceived?) decline of Go in the east predates AlphaGo and most theories involve straightforward geopolitics more than any AI conspiracy theory. In the west it still seems to only be driving more interest in the game. > The fact Is perhaps not so factual...
autonomousErwin 4y ago
Would this count? https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/ https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/
- dekhn 4y ago
  technically no, because they are referring to AlphaGo, not DM. DM's results in protein structure prediction are world-class breakthrough work (well, it was last year; now it's routine, having been duplicated by many others). At least in my mind (I'm an ex-biophysicist with a long-term interest in seeing ML applied to biology problems like structure prediction) that is a truly long-term result that demonstrated that, at least for some short period of time, DM was way ahead of everybody else in the field. They also published the details and made large-scale predictions.
eddsh1994 4y ago
Solving protein folding?
- nprateem 4y ago
  But apart from protein folding, alpha go, roads, sanitation and the aqueduct, what have deepmind ever done for us?
karmakaze 4y ago
AlphaGo was the tipping point, demonstrating that machines can be effective in a high-level/'creative' field with a vast search space, much larger than chess using training rather than hand-written algorithms (that don't translate to other fields). No one expected Go to be solved to the degree and manner of AlphaGo for generations. It was the start of the great acceleration in ML since Deep RNN re-ignited the field.
lairv 4y ago
Is it true that AlphaGo killed the Go community ? I mean I'm sure there are still Go players, but has AlphaGo had a significant impact on the Go community?
- morelisp 4y ago
  I can't speak to its effects in Asia where I can imagine there's been some more direct economic impact, but as a long-time casual player in Europe, interest from my social groups has mostly (but slightly) risen post-AlphaGo.
- dvngnt_ 4y ago
  how. AI has been better than humans at chess for years and chess is still going strong
  - 93po 4y ago
    As an interesting side note, though, software (AI?) has definitely introduced a new dynamic to professional chess, and has very recently caused a lot of controversy (when used for cheating).

devin 4y ago

AlphaGo in no way, shape, or form killed the go community. Stockfish hasn't killed the chess community, either.

up2isomorphism 4y ago
The fact is that much less kids or people playing Go now, and competitions are not getting nearly as much attention as before. Putting two strong statements without any evidence does not mean anything.
- DennisP 4y ago
  In fairness, you just made two strong statements without evidence.
- morelisp 4y ago
  The debate over the causes of (perceived?) decline of Go in the east predates AlphaGo and most theories involve straightforward geopolitics more than any AI conspiracy theory. In the west it still seems to only be driving more interest in the game. > The fact Is perhaps not so factual...

autonomousErwin 4y ago

Would this count? https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/ https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/

dekhn 4y ago
technically no, because they are referring to AlphaGo, not DM. DM's results in protein structure prediction are world-class breakthrough work (well, it was last year; now it's routine, having been duplicated by many others). At least in my mind (I'm an ex-biophysicist with a long-term interest in seeing ML applied to biology problems like structure prediction) that is a truly long-term result that demonstrated that, at least for some short period of time, DM was way ahead of everybody else in the field. They also published the details and made large-scale predictions.

eddsh1994 4y ago

Solving protein folding?

nprateem 4y ago
But apart from protein folding, alpha go, roads, sanitation and the aqueduct, what have deepmind ever done for us?

karmakaze 4y ago

AlphaGo was the tipping point, demonstrating that machines can be effective in a high-level/'creative' field with a vast search space, much larger than chess using training rather than hand-written algorithms (that don't translate to other fields). No one expected Go to be solved to the degree and manner of AlphaGo for generations. It was the start of the great acceleration in ML since Deep RNN re-ignited the field.

lairv 4y ago

Is it true that AlphaGo killed the Go community ? I mean I'm sure there are still Go players, but has AlphaGo had a significant impact on the Go community?

morelisp 4y ago
I can't speak to its effects in Asia where I can imagine there's been some more direct economic impact, but as a long-time casual player in Europe, interest from my social groups has mostly (but slightly) risen post-AlphaGo.
dvngnt_ 4y ago
how. AI has been better than humans at chess for years and chess is still going strong
- 93po 4y ago
  As an interesting side note, though, software (AI?) has definitely introduced a new dynamic to professional chess, and has very recently caused a lot of controversy (when used for cheating).