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It really isn’t quite that simple. There are Intersex people who have ambiguous genitalia and there are several viable chromosome combos besides XX and XY.

DoneWithAllThat 4y ago
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- shrimp_emoji 4y ago
  Stop what? Using accurate information? Not ignoring the complexities of the world? That comment is absolutely correct; to make things more confusing, people whose sex appears female can turn out to have XY allosomes in some, or all[0], of their cells. 0: https://www.invitra.com/en/morris-syndrome/ https://www.invitra.com/en/morris-syndrome/
  - fullmoon 4y ago
    As the article you’ve linked states this syndrome affects males, makes them resistant to androgens, so they have an appearance of females. It doesn’t state anywhere that the patients are either female or belong to a novel category.
  - evandale 4y ago
    From your own link Morris syndrome affects males. In fact, the presence of a Y chromosome by definition means the person is of male sex and it really is as simple as that. One's appearance has no effect on their sex.
yucky 4y ago
Those are birth defects though. For instance, we still understand humans as being bipedal despite anomalies that prevent a tiny fraction of humans from being bipedal.
- inetknght 4y ago
  `XXY` is a valid combination of sex chromosomes. The person has two `X` chromosomes so is female. The person also has one `Y` chromosome so is male. Which sex is the person? Is it a birth defect?
  - evandale 4y ago
    XXY is Klinefelter syndrome. By definition it's a condition where boys and men are born with an extra X chromosome. Their sex is male because, also by definition, the presence of a Y chromosome means male.
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  - fullmoon 4y ago
    The term “birth defect” fell out of use because of its stigmatizing word construction. Chromosomal abnormalities would be the modern term, it applies to both sexual as well as other chromosomal abnormalities like Down. But to answer the question as asked: Yes, it fulfills the definition of the older term.
  - yucky 4y ago
    > Is it a birth defect? Yes.
fullmoon 4y ago
In sexually dimorphic mammalian species sex is most commonly by the ability to produce either the small or big gametes, not chromosomes. In humans syndromes that lead to ambiguous (“intersex”) presentation and/or chromosomes are still operating in a binary system, eh Klinefelter affects boys. The same is true for (very) rare hermaphroditism: in this case both gametes could in theory be produced, in practice though individuals are sterile.

DoneWithAllThat 4y ago

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shrimp_emoji 4y ago
Stop what? Using accurate information? Not ignoring the complexities of the world? That comment is absolutely correct; to make things more confusing, people whose sex appears female can turn out to have XY allosomes in some, or all[0], of their cells. 0: https://www.invitra.com/en/morris-syndrome/ https://www.invitra.com/en/morris-syndrome/
- fullmoon 4y ago
  As the article you’ve linked states this syndrome affects males, makes them resistant to androgens, so they have an appearance of females. It doesn’t state anywhere that the patients are either female or belong to a novel category.
- evandale 4y ago
  From your own link Morris syndrome affects males. In fact, the presence of a Y chromosome by definition means the person is of male sex and it really is as simple as that. One's appearance has no effect on their sex.

yucky 4y ago

Those are birth defects though. For instance, we still understand humans as being bipedal despite anomalies that prevent a tiny fraction of humans from being bipedal.

inetknght 4y ago
`XXY` is a valid combination of sex chromosomes. The person has two `X` chromosomes so is female. The person also has one `Y` chromosome so is male. Which sex is the person? Is it a birth defect?
- evandale 4y ago
  XXY is Klinefelter syndrome. By definition it's a condition where boys and men are born with an extra X chromosome. Their sex is male because, also by definition, the presence of a Y chromosome means male.
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- fullmoon 4y ago
  The term “birth defect” fell out of use because of its stigmatizing word construction. Chromosomal abnormalities would be the modern term, it applies to both sexual as well as other chromosomal abnormalities like Down. But to answer the question as asked: Yes, it fulfills the definition of the older term.
- yucky 4y ago
  > Is it a birth defect? Yes.

fullmoon 4y ago

In sexually dimorphic mammalian species sex is most commonly by the ability to produce either the small or big gametes, not chromosomes. In humans syndromes that lead to ambiguous (“intersex”) presentation and/or chromosomes are still operating in a binary system, eh Klinefelter affects boys. The same is true for (very) rare hermaphroditism: in this case both gametes could in theory be produced, in practice though individuals are sterile.