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i'm still angry at mozilla and google for deprecating that, being able to set up a simple anonymous FTP server and send normies a link to it that they can open

i'm still angry at mozilla and google for deprecating that, being able to set up a simple anonymous FTP server and send normies a link to it that they can open in their browsers was really convenient. Now if I want to use FTP i have to explain to them that they have to copy it into the windows file explorer or download filezilla.

Aachen 4y ago
I didn't even use it all that often but, yes, I also feel like this was useful to have. Every now and again I come across an ftp site that I now have to copy into a dedicated program instead.
haileys 4y ago
Why not an HTTP server with a directory index? FTP is a pretty clunky protocol: it's round-trip heavy, not friendly to NAT on the client-side when you don't use PASV, not friendly to firewalls on the server-side when you do. I'm not sure what benefits there are to it these days.
- spydum 4y ago
  Ftp is dead, just enterprise and mid level companies won't let go. It boggles the mind why it has persisted so long.
  - eppp 4y ago
    There is tons of old crappy software that cannot understand anything else, so it persists. Like fax machines.
  - Geezus-42 4y ago
    Though I typically use rsync these days, FTP can be useful for copying files to and from a Linux server when the client is a Windows machine.
    - Kim_Bruning 4y ago
      Recent windows versions natively support ssh, scp, sftp on the command line.
      - LilBytes 4y ago
        The types of companies that use Windows will atypically take a long time to get on a modern version for their stack. Desktop fleet withstanding.
  - sitkack 4y ago
    But how can we pop a box without have wuftpd installed?
- doublepg23 4y ago
  Yeah a simple `python3 -m http.server` works pretty well.
  - champtar 4y ago
    Python http.server doesn't handle concurrent requests, so it works pretty well until it doesn't. Example don't use it to serve an ISO to iLO/iDRAC, boot will fail.
    - saagarjha 4y ago
      I believe this was updated in a recent version of Python to use threads.
- password4321 4y ago
  https://github.com/sigoden/dufs https://github.com/sigoden/dufs A file server that supports static serving, uploading MIT/Apache-2 in Rust
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tannhaeuser 4y ago
Not just FTP is being deprecated, but WebDAV (DeltaV) is deeply based on Apache's mod_dav_svn subversion integration as well. WebDAV maps over regular HTTP GET/POST routes to provide quite sophisticated versioning of web resources at the same endpoint using just additional HTTP verbs (though also is/was often routed at URLs with a special prefix).
mickael-kerjean 4y ago
I made one of these online tool from which you can create deep links to an FTP server like this: https://demo.filestash.app/login?type=ftp&hostname=ftp.gnu.org&next=/files/video/ https://demo.filestash.app/login?type=ftp&hostname=ftp.gnu.o... It works not only with ftp but sftp, s3, webdav and pretty much any other storage backend you can think of.

Aachen 4y ago

I didn't even use it all that often but, yes, I also feel like this was useful to have. Every now and again I come across an ftp site that I now have to copy into a dedicated program instead.

haileys 4y ago

Why not an HTTP server with a directory index? FTP is a pretty clunky protocol: it's round-trip heavy, not friendly to NAT on the client-side when you don't use PASV, not friendly to firewalls on the server-side when you do. I'm not sure what benefits there are to it these days.

spydum 4y ago
Ftp is dead, just enterprise and mid level companies won't let go. It boggles the mind why it has persisted so long.
- eppp 4y ago
  There is tons of old crappy software that cannot understand anything else, so it persists. Like fax machines.
- Geezus-42 4y ago
  Though I typically use rsync these days, FTP can be useful for copying files to and from a Linux server when the client is a Windows machine.
  - Kim_Bruning 4y ago
    Recent windows versions natively support ssh, scp, sftp on the command line.
    - LilBytes 4y ago
      The types of companies that use Windows will atypically take a long time to get on a modern version for their stack. Desktop fleet withstanding.
- sitkack 4y ago
  But how can we pop a box without have wuftpd installed?
doublepg23 4y ago
Yeah a simple `python3 -m http.server` works pretty well.
- champtar 4y ago
  Python http.server doesn't handle concurrent requests, so it works pretty well until it doesn't. Example don't use it to serve an ISO to iLO/iDRAC, boot will fail.
  - saagarjha 4y ago
    I believe this was updated in a recent version of Python to use threads.
password4321 4y ago
https://github.com/sigoden/dufs https://github.com/sigoden/dufs A file server that supports static serving, uploading MIT/Apache-2 in Rust

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tannhaeuser 4y ago

Not just FTP is being deprecated, but WebDAV (DeltaV) is deeply based on Apache's mod_dav_svn subversion integration as well. WebDAV maps over regular HTTP GET/POST routes to provide quite sophisticated versioning of web resources at the same endpoint using just additional HTTP verbs (though also is/was often routed at URLs with a special prefix).

mickael-kerjean 4y ago

I made one of these online tool from which you can create deep links to an FTP server like this: https://demo.filestash.app/login?type=ftp&hostname=ftp.gnu.org&next=/files/video/ https://demo.filestash.app/login?type=ftp&hostname=ftp.gnu.o... It works not only with ftp but sftp, s3, webdav and pretty much any other storage backend you can think of.