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They got too big for their own good. 7 Marvel movies will be released in the next 19 months. Peak capitalism but I guess there is always a crowd for that. Also

They got too big for their own good. 7 Marvel movies will be released in the next 19 months. Peak capitalism but I guess there is always a crowd for that. Also I'd assume the whole production is basically so streamlined now they can "just do it". Put out as many movies as possible and the meantime lower production costs, I guess in the future AI will be a big help here too especially in the CGI part.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago
Lower production costs also means competitors will have an easier time producing content. Hollywood studios have been the gatekeepers of culture but that's going to be more and more difficult for them to enforce as the limiting factor on movie making becomes more about creating desirable storytelling and less about wealth. These hugely expensive CGIfests seem to be the last ditch attempt at setting a bar that only the incumbent studio can meet. Someone will come along with a compelling story and a meager budget and end up showing up the nth iteration of whatever comicbook character they're pushing at the moment.
chii 4y ago
unfortunately, streamlining these movies made them really bad. There's no soul in these movies that come from the love of the comic book characters. It's like a meat factory, rolling out identical, tasteless meat in a can that's cheap and easy to consume, but lack depth of flavour.
- LegitShady 4y ago
  they often purposely hire people who are not fans of the originals whose remake they are making. what those kinds of people makr are always hit and miss, and often miss.
  - Firmwarrior 4y ago
    I guess I'll go to bat for the multi-billion dollar megacorp since nobody else is doing it Avengers: Endgame was great. They did a heist through time that was basically a speed run of all the other movies. Ant-Man preserved the "F You" energy from Hank Pym while keeping things just grounded enough to be fun. Thor: Love and Thunder was basically an action-packed version of a "Flight of the Conchords" episode and they ended up solving their problems by talking instead of just smashing heads in. So far as big budget movies go, these are the best I've ever seen
    - wussboy 4y ago
      I _hate_ time travel in movies unless the movie is only about time travel. It's such a cop-out. Can't figure out how do to it? Just use time travel! But the rest of your comment I agree with.
      - chii 4y ago
        love and thunder was terrible. They completely misused Christian Bale, the script barely develops that character. A lot of shoehorned humor, to try and capture the fun that was thor ragnarok.
    - LegitShady 4y ago
      Avengers Endgame was just ok. I never saw ant man. Thor Love and Thunder was an affront to film making, and potentially a crime against humanity. So we can agree to disagree.
      - Jcowell 4y ago
        Thor love and thunder was just bad. WW1988 is a crime against humanity
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>7 Marvel movies will be released in the next 19 months. Disney-Marvel is now the Taco-Bell of entertainment. In fact, most modern Hollywood productions are absolute trash. Just poor quality remakes, sequels, spin-offs of once popular franchises where they shoe-horn various modern-day identity politics and woke "progressive" topics trying to appeal to Twitter critic mobs, expecting people are NPCs who should just mindlessly consume whatever their corporate machine craps out of their "creative" board-room meetings. Top Gun Maverick was for me the only enjoyable movie worth watching in 2022, which is somewhat sad since it was full of plot holes but everyone enjoys thrilling dogfights and it followed a very simple recipe that has been battle proven all the way till the '90s but for some reason Hollywood decided to actively reject it now in most modern productions thinking that some sliver spoon executive detached from reality knows better than the fans who buy the tickets. Tom Cruise seems to be one of the last few in show-biz who knows how to give fans exactly what they want. These days, I find much better quality stuff is coming out of Korea, Denmark, France, Finland, etc.
- korroziya 4y ago
  >where they shoe-horn various modern-day identity politics and "progressive" topics trying to appeal to Twitter critic mobs It's refreshung to see this level of objective honesty on HN.
- InitialLastName 4y ago
  There's an irony in complaining about "progressive" signalling in movies while praising Top Gun: Maverick, a movie so woke that they made the baddies an unidentifiable country just so nobody would get offended.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    How was obfuscating the enemy woke? The plot is way too simplistic for that to have made any difference.
  - dagw 4y ago
    Top Gun: Maverick, a movie so woke that they made the baddies an unidentifiable country Was the original Top Gun also woke? Pretty sure they didn't identify the "baddies" in that one either.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago

Lower production costs also means competitors will have an easier time producing content. Hollywood studios have been the gatekeepers of culture but that's going to be more and more difficult for them to enforce as the limiting factor on movie making becomes more about creating desirable storytelling and less about wealth. These hugely expensive CGIfests seem to be the last ditch attempt at setting a bar that only the incumbent studio can meet. Someone will come along with a compelling story and a meager budget and end up showing up the nth iteration of whatever comicbook character they're pushing at the moment.

chii 4y ago

unfortunately, streamlining these movies made them really bad. There's no soul in these movies that come from the love of the comic book characters. It's like a meat factory, rolling out identical, tasteless meat in a can that's cheap and easy to consume, but lack depth of flavour.

LegitShady 4y ago
they often purposely hire people who are not fans of the originals whose remake they are making. what those kinds of people makr are always hit and miss, and often miss.
- Firmwarrior 4y ago
  I guess I'll go to bat for the multi-billion dollar megacorp since nobody else is doing it Avengers: Endgame was great. They did a heist through time that was basically a speed run of all the other movies. Ant-Man preserved the "F You" energy from Hank Pym while keeping things just grounded enough to be fun. Thor: Love and Thunder was basically an action-packed version of a "Flight of the Conchords" episode and they ended up solving their problems by talking instead of just smashing heads in. So far as big budget movies go, these are the best I've ever seen
  - wussboy 4y ago
    I _hate_ time travel in movies unless the movie is only about time travel. It's such a cop-out. Can't figure out how do to it? Just use time travel! But the rest of your comment I agree with.
    - chii 4y ago
      love and thunder was terrible. They completely misused Christian Bale, the script barely develops that character. A lot of shoehorned humor, to try and capture the fun that was thor ragnarok.
  - LegitShady 4y ago
    Avengers Endgame was just ok. I never saw ant man. Thor Love and Thunder was an affront to film making, and potentially a crime against humanity. So we can agree to disagree.
    - Jcowell 4y ago
      Thor love and thunder was just bad. WW1988 is a crime against humanity

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>7 Marvel movies will be released in the next 19 months. Disney-Marvel is now the Taco-Bell of entertainment. In fact, most modern Hollywood productions are absolute trash. Just poor quality remakes, sequels, spin-offs of once popular franchises where they shoe-horn various modern-day identity politics and woke "progressive" topics trying to appeal to Twitter critic mobs, expecting people are NPCs who should just mindlessly consume whatever their corporate machine craps out of their "creative" board-room meetings. Top Gun Maverick was for me the only enjoyable movie worth watching in 2022, which is somewhat sad since it was full of plot holes but everyone enjoys thrilling dogfights and it followed a very simple recipe that has been battle proven all the way till the '90s but for some reason Hollywood decided to actively reject it now in most modern productions thinking that some sliver spoon executive detached from reality knows better than the fans who buy the tickets. Tom Cruise seems to be one of the last few in show-biz who knows how to give fans exactly what they want. These days, I find much better quality stuff is coming out of Korea, Denmark, France, Finland, etc.

korroziya 4y ago
>where they shoe-horn various modern-day identity politics and "progressive" topics trying to appeal to Twitter critic mobs It's refreshung to see this level of objective honesty on HN.
InitialLastName 4y ago
There's an irony in complaining about "progressive" signalling in movies while praising Top Gun: Maverick, a movie so woke that they made the baddies an unidentifiable country just so nobody would get offended.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  How was obfuscating the enemy woke? The plot is way too simplistic for that to have made any difference.
- dagw 4y ago
  Top Gun: Maverick, a movie so woke that they made the baddies an unidentifiable country Was the original Top Gun also woke? Pretty sure they didn't identify the "baddies" in that one either.