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Apple is probably like "let's just wait this out and let Zuck take all the heat and pain of getting this figured out. By that time he'll be out of money and we'

by bentt 4y ago

Apple is probably like "let's just wait this out and let Zuck take all the heat and pain of getting this figured out. By that time he'll be out of money and we'll look like the heroes for fixing everything. If we go in too early with even a 90% baked product we have nothing to gain."

Salgat 4y ago
What they're doing is completely different. AR is meant as a tool to greatly enhance your day to day life, while VR is more focused on entertainment.
- anotherman554 4y ago
  Quest Pro has AR features. They seem to call it mixed reality for some reason.
  - georgeecollins 4y ago
    I think the difference is that mixed reality is assuming you will mostly stay in one place with defined boundaries, and the device doesn't take in a lot of spatial information about where you are. But it has video pass through so you are aware of your surroundings. Augmented reality is similar, but it is more like trying to illustrate on the world around you (put an object on the real table in front of you). AR is draw on your environment as you move around. MR is like VR with pass through.
  - filoleg 4y ago
    I think the distinction they have is helpful. They call it mixed reality because when people say AR, they assume virtual stuff overlaid on the actual real world stuff (like with glasses). Quest Pro isn't that, you don't look at the real world through lenses, you are looking at what the camera feed of the real world in front of you displayed on the "screen".
jamil7 4y ago
I think it makes sense, they're not normally first movers.
akmarinov 4y ago
eg the Apple way - iPod, iPhone, etc
schuke 4y ago
Apple Watch was much less than 90% baked on launch IMO. But old-fashioned iterations obviously has work very well for it.
- SkyPuncher 4y ago
  I think Apple Watch was a far safer bet. Wrist watches have been a thing for a long time. It's pretty clear that people would enjoy even basic functionality on their wrist.
  - schuke 4y ago
    Very true. I started down the rabbit hole of Casio, Timex and Seiko after borrowing my wife's 1st-gen Apple Watch for a few days.
- adrr 4y ago
  It was good enough and getting notifications on your watch so you don’t have to pull out your phone is probably the top reason people get an Apple Watch. That’s the reason I wear mine. Only thing that was flawed with the first version is that it wasn’t waterproof.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    >It was good enough and getting notifications on your watch so you don’t have to pull out your phone is probably the top reason people get an Apple Watch. That’s the reason I wear mine. That's the reason I bought mine and is also the reason I stopped wearing it 2 years later in favor of my old Timex and Casio combo. Now I'm mentally and emotionally way more at ease, plus, those watches look cooler. Having access to notifications on my writs and being always connected felt cool and novel in the beginning, now it feels like hell. I'm curious if there's other people who also upgraded to a dumb watch?
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      >Having access to notifications on my writs and being always connected felt cool and novel in the beginning, now it feels like hell. There is an option to if you swipe down to turn off all notifications when you do not want them, or you can schedule it.
makeitdouble 4y ago
I respect Apple for having restraint and not shipping products they don’t believe in. It’s sometimes a pain to have them trail behind on features that aren’t just perfect to their taste (a touch enabled laptop is long overdue for instance…), but in areas where they’re expected to just be one player among others it stays a healthy stance. In the meantime, the Quest2 will continue to be the no-brained choice for those who want to dip their toe in the field.
HDThoreaun 4y ago
Mark has unlimited money. Meta is incredibly profitable and that’s not changing anytime soon. No reason for me to think mark will do anything but continue to double down on a platform that makes them unbeholden to anyone.
tinus_hn 4y ago
Technology like VR can, if someone figures out a way to make it useful, take over the world by storm. It’s a sure bet that for any such technology Apple has projects going on, just to make sure they aren’t caught by surprise.

by bentt 4y ago

Salgat 4y ago

What they're doing is completely different. AR is meant as a tool to greatly enhance your day to day life, while VR is more focused on entertainment.

anotherman554 4y ago
Quest Pro has AR features. They seem to call it mixed reality for some reason.
- georgeecollins 4y ago
  I think the difference is that mixed reality is assuming you will mostly stay in one place with defined boundaries, and the device doesn't take in a lot of spatial information about where you are. But it has video pass through so you are aware of your surroundings. Augmented reality is similar, but it is more like trying to illustrate on the world around you (put an object on the real table in front of you). AR is draw on your environment as you move around. MR is like VR with pass through.
- filoleg 4y ago
  I think the distinction they have is helpful. They call it mixed reality because when people say AR, they assume virtual stuff overlaid on the actual real world stuff (like with glasses). Quest Pro isn't that, you don't look at the real world through lenses, you are looking at what the camera feed of the real world in front of you displayed on the "screen".

jamil7 4y ago

I think it makes sense, they're not normally first movers.

akmarinov 4y ago

eg the Apple way - iPod, iPhone, etc

schuke 4y ago

Apple Watch was much less than 90% baked on launch IMO. But old-fashioned iterations obviously has work very well for it.

SkyPuncher 4y ago
I think Apple Watch was a far safer bet. Wrist watches have been a thing for a long time. It's pretty clear that people would enjoy even basic functionality on their wrist.
- schuke 4y ago
  Very true. I started down the rabbit hole of Casio, Timex and Seiko after borrowing my wife's 1st-gen Apple Watch for a few days.
adrr 4y ago
It was good enough and getting notifications on your watch so you don’t have to pull out your phone is probably the top reason people get an Apple Watch. That’s the reason I wear mine. Only thing that was flawed with the first version is that it wasn’t waterproof.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  >It was good enough and getting notifications on your watch so you don’t have to pull out your phone is probably the top reason people get an Apple Watch. That’s the reason I wear mine. That's the reason I bought mine and is also the reason I stopped wearing it 2 years later in favor of my old Timex and Casio combo. Now I'm mentally and emotionally way more at ease, plus, those watches look cooler. Having access to notifications on my writs and being always connected felt cool and novel in the beginning, now it feels like hell. I'm curious if there's other people who also upgraded to a dumb watch?
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    >Having access to notifications on my writs and being always connected felt cool and novel in the beginning, now it feels like hell. There is an option to if you swipe down to turn off all notifications when you do not want them, or you can schedule it.

makeitdouble 4y ago

I respect Apple for having restraint and not shipping products they don’t believe in. It’s sometimes a pain to have them trail behind on features that aren’t just perfect to their taste (a touch enabled laptop is long overdue for instance…), but in areas where they’re expected to just be one player among others it stays a healthy stance. In the meantime, the Quest2 will continue to be the no-brained choice for those who want to dip their toe in the field.

HDThoreaun 4y ago

Mark has unlimited money. Meta is incredibly profitable and that’s not changing anytime soon. No reason for me to think mark will do anything but continue to double down on a platform that makes them unbeholden to anyone.

tinus_hn 4y ago

Technology like VR can, if someone figures out a way to make it useful, take over the world by storm. It’s a sure bet that for any such technology Apple has projects going on, just to make sure they aren’t caught by surprise.