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From Star Trek: First Contact: "When you build a machine to do a man's job, you take something away from the man." You surrendered the need to think to the mac
by henry_bone 4y ago
From Star Trek: First Contact: "When you build a machine to do a man's job, you take something away from the man."
You surrendered the need to think to the machine. You are lesser for it. I don't think these AIs are just removing drudgery, like, say, a calculator. They actually do the work. Or more correctly, they produce something that will pass for the work.
Wholesale embracing of this sort of technology is bad for us.
- RosanaAnaDana 4y agoMeh. I'd rather find out where it can take us. That sounds more fun and interesting.
- XorNot 4y agoDoes this mean pair programming makes you a worse engineer? Or even just "asking for a second opinion"?
- sli 4y agoI don't think other people count as "machines."
- imtringued 4y agoIf you do pair programming and the other person always does all the work, then yes.
- RhodesianHunter 4y agoThat sounds pretty Luddite to me. I don't think the average person wants to be doing the menial work, vs architecting a grander vision IE the purpose for the work.
- melagonster 4y agomany AI is designed for doing research, medical and writer work.
- Karunamon 4y agoI don't know about you but if I had the ability to dictate requirements and to get a program out the other side that matches those requirements, the process of coding has become mere busywork that can be eliminated for the benefit of me and everyone else. I'm sure the buggy whip makers had pride in their work as well.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y agoYep, it'll free us from the tedium of code writing and give us more time for meetings. And as everyone knows, meetings are what get real programmers excited.
- euroderf 4y agoAn every-day all-day all-hands code review, in a feeble attempt to keep up with all the code being cranked out by the A.I.
- imtringued 4y agoBut none of what you are talking about has happened today and even the buggy whip reference doesn't make sense because the buggy whip market disappeared because we stopped using horses. The buggy whip equivalent would be the IDE.
- acchow 4y agoThat's how Socrates thought about books. Yet here we are 2400 years later and our minds are mostly fine.
- d0mine 4y ago"When and Why Did Human Brains Decrease in Size 3,000 Years Ago?" https://neurosciencenews.com/evolution-human-brain-collective-intelligence-19524/ https://neurosciencenews.com/evolution-human-brain-collectiv... Coincidence? ;) "the brain shrinkage parallels the expansion of collective intelligence in human societies." It looks like we are due for another brain shrinkage.
- goatlover 4y agoThat’s the message of Frank Herbert in the Dune universe regarding machines. They’re useful up until you start letting them do the thinking for you. Which leads to laziness, stagnation and control by an elite. So did reliance on spice for that matter.
- j45 4y agoSimilar to using GPS vs the cognitive load not to and learning navigation with maps and memorization. Or back up cameras in a car.
- carapace 4y ago> Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. - - - - This is good and well for existing minds, but I think a lot of people will let these machines raise their children and that might cripple them. Like if you let your kids use a wheelchair instead of learning to walk? It's an imperfect metaphor.
- goatlover 4y agoThe new movie M3GAN raises that question. It's not a great movie, but even without the eventual horror elements, it would raise disturbing implications for creating doll robots that can do the work of parenting so parents can focus on what they really care about, like work.
- peddling-brink 4y agoI disagree with this being an example of your point. OP tried to be lazy “find the bug”, but that failed because the machine could not think for them. Then OP used a tool that helped them better understand the code, and found the bug. That’s not lazy, that’s smart.
- optimalsolver 4y agoI'm pretty sure that quote is from Star Trek: Insurrection.
- henry_bone 4y agoYep. You are right. Insurrection.