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What’s the thought process as to why they exist? What would actually happen if the government mandated that they were illegal to operate? In australia, slot ma

What’s the thought process as to why they exist? What would actually happen if the government mandated that they were illegal to operate? In australia, slot machines are controlled by organisations which are effectively white collar gangsters. The NSW organisation is currently suing an ex-employee who worked in anti-corruption and subsequently whistle-blew on unactioned corruption reports, while he’s on his deathbed with terminal cancer.

simlevesque 4y ago
> What’s the thought process as to why they exist? What would actually happen if the government mandated that they were illegal to operate? > In australia, slot machines are controlled by organisations which are effectively white collar gangsters. The thought process is that if it wasn't government run, it would be ran by actual gangsters with much less accountability.
- hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
  As opposed to not letting anyone run it, I mean.
  - p1necone 4y ago
    I suspect the reality is that preventing illegal gambling via enforcement would be basically impossible to do effectively without spending a significant portion of the police budget on it. Allowing heavily regulated legal gambling is more like the lesser of two evils.
    - hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
      I’m curious why you think that. There will always be illegal casinos, but the interest in slot machines would surely not be large enough to reach prohibition level behaviours? But I’m also unsure how I feel about prohibiting a behaviour, given the whole slippery slope article etc
  - jamesfinlayson 4y ago
    It'd still be run illegally - I'm sure in Queensland there were illegal casinos in pub districts before pokies were legalised in the... 1980s I want to say (or maybe early 1990s). They probably offered gambling on credit and other stuff that is now illegal (not to say it still doesn't happen but it'd be very uncommon).
rippercushions 4y ago
Context: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/25/clubsnsw-warned-friendlyjordies-that-whistleblower-interview-was-in-contempt-of-court https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/25/clubs... My "favorite" part, for lack of a better adjective, is how ClubsNSW (the slot machine organization) successfully got a federal court order telling the whistleblower to stop "intimidating, harassing" the poor, innocent ClubsNSW, while at the same time the home of the guy who interviewed the whistleblower gets firebombed, twice!
- hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
  To be fair, friendlyjordies has pissed off a lot of people, I think as far as motives go, there are plenty of likely and unrelated parties who would be capable of doing that.

simlevesque 4y ago

> What’s the thought process as to why they exist? What would actually happen if the government mandated that they were illegal to operate? > In australia, slot machines are controlled by organisations which are effectively white collar gangsters. The thought process is that if it wasn't government run, it would be ran by actual gangsters with much less accountability.

hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
As opposed to not letting anyone run it, I mean.
- p1necone 4y ago
  I suspect the reality is that preventing illegal gambling via enforcement would be basically impossible to do effectively without spending a significant portion of the police budget on it. Allowing heavily regulated legal gambling is more like the lesser of two evils.
  - hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
    I’m curious why you think that. There will always be illegal casinos, but the interest in slot machines would surely not be large enough to reach prohibition level behaviours? But I’m also unsure how I feel about prohibiting a behaviour, given the whole slippery slope article etc
- jamesfinlayson 4y ago
  It'd still be run illegally - I'm sure in Queensland there were illegal casinos in pub districts before pokies were legalised in the... 1980s I want to say (or maybe early 1990s). They probably offered gambling on credit and other stuff that is now illegal (not to say it still doesn't happen but it'd be very uncommon).

rippercushions 4y ago

Context: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/25/clubsnsw-warned-friendlyjordies-that-whistleblower-interview-was-in-contempt-of-court https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/25/clubs... My "favorite" part, for lack of a better adjective, is how ClubsNSW (the slot machine organization) successfully got a federal court order telling the whistleblower to stop "intimidating, harassing" the poor, innocent ClubsNSW, while at the same time the home of the guy who interviewed the whistleblower gets firebombed, twice!

hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
To be fair, friendlyjordies has pissed off a lot of people, I think as far as motives go, there are plenty of likely and unrelated parties who would be capable of doing that.