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What is the legislation in Finland that supports this? Also, it seems easy to circumvent...

by rgrieselhuber 15y ago

pimeys 15y ago
There is none. Nobody cares.
- oe 15y ago
  Nobody cares because everyone will have figured out how to access TPB tomorrow latest. Elisa will fight the decision in court, but it's not like this would have an effect on people.
  - pimeys 15y ago
    I meant there is quite little opposition against this kind of stupid decisions. Normal people don't understand what's so bad in banning IP addresses and censoring the internet. It's against child porn and piracy, would somebody please think of the children (and movie industry)?
    - rgrieselhuber 15y ago
      But the courts ordered it? Surely they are using some sort of legislation to support the decision?
    - samiru 15y ago
      > But the courts ordered it? Surely they are using some sort of legislation to support the decision? In Finland? Not necessary.
praptak 15y ago
My guess is that they convinced the court that the general provisions of the civil code apply here. The details would indeed be interesting but I guess you'd have to understand Finnish to get them.
white_devil 15y ago
> What is the legislation in Finland that supports this? It doesn't matter? What is the legislation in the US that supports robo-signing people's homes away? What did they recently care about your constitution when deciding that detaining US citizens on a whim, indefinitely, is alright? What is the legislation that supports torturing Private Manning for months or years?
- rgrieselhuber 15y ago
  I was merely asking what the legislation was out of curiosity for what justification the Finnish government was using, and because the article said it was ordered by the courts. I never said I agreed with it or thought it would be ok if there was some legislation. I was actually surprised that there would be such legislation in Finland, which I had considered to be much more open than the US is. The thing that is scary about the US situation is that they do take the trouble to create this sort of legislation (SOPA, NDAA, etc.)
rapala 15y ago
Copyright law, naturally. It gives a right to the owner of the copyright (or in this case, his/hers representative) to make a claim for the removal of the infringing material. The law text in finnish: http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1961/19610404?search%5Btype%5D=pika&search%5Bpika%5D=tekij%C3%A4noikeus http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1961/19610404?search%5...

What is the legislation in Finland that supports this? Also, it seems easy to circumvent...

pimeys 15y ago

There is none. Nobody cares.

oe 15y ago
Nobody cares because everyone will have figured out how to access TPB tomorrow latest. Elisa will fight the decision in court, but it's not like this would have an effect on people.
- pimeys 15y ago
  I meant there is quite little opposition against this kind of stupid decisions. Normal people don't understand what's so bad in banning IP addresses and censoring the internet. It's against child porn and piracy, would somebody please think of the children (and movie industry)?
  - rgrieselhuber 15y ago
    But the courts ordered it? Surely they are using some sort of legislation to support the decision?
  - samiru 15y ago
    > But the courts ordered it? Surely they are using some sort of legislation to support the decision? In Finland? Not necessary.

praptak 15y ago

My guess is that they convinced the court that the general provisions of the civil code apply here. The details would indeed be interesting but I guess you'd have to understand Finnish to get them.

white_devil 15y ago

> What is the legislation in Finland that supports this? It doesn't matter? What is the legislation in the US that supports robo-signing people's homes away? What did they recently care about your constitution when deciding that detaining US citizens on a whim, indefinitely, is alright? What is the legislation that supports torturing Private Manning for months or years?

rgrieselhuber 15y ago
I was merely asking what the legislation was out of curiosity for what justification the Finnish government was using, and because the article said it was ordered by the courts. I never said I agreed with it or thought it would be ok if there was some legislation. I was actually surprised that there would be such legislation in Finland, which I had considered to be much more open than the US is. The thing that is scary about the US situation is that they do take the trouble to create this sort of legislation (SOPA, NDAA, etc.)

rapala 15y ago

Copyright law, naturally. It gives a right to the owner of the copyright (or in this case, his/hers representative) to make a claim for the removal of the infringing material. The law text in finnish: http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1961/19610404?search%5Btype%5D=pika&search%5Bpika%5D=tekij%C3%A4noikeus http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1961/19610404?search%5...