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From the looks of it, it didn't take long before it was used to take down something other than piracy sites: "Update: Also, Piraattilahti.fi -address currently

by gizzlon 15y ago

From the looks of it, it didn't take long before it was used to take down something other than piracy sites: "Update: Also, Piraattilahti.fi -address currently hosts just a video file casting criticism against the SOPA legislation in the US. How does this promote copyright infringement?" Uh oh..

bergie 15y ago
Seems we have a pattern for this in Finland. DNS blocking of suspected child porn sites went live some years ago. Then a researcher published critique on how it was handled (most of the blocked sites did not have any illegal material), and his site got blocked as well.
- gizzlon 15y ago
  What? Seriously? When criticism like this is censored, you're no longer living in a "free and open" society.. Sorry =(
  - hpaavola 15y ago
    More on that issue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsiporno.info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsiporno.info
  - tomjen3 15y ago
    The childporn system in Denmark was used to something similar. The actual list of websites is/was hidden, but got leaked to wikileaks -- a large amount of those banned sites were simply (adult) gay sites that had pissed somebody of. I am not sure, but I think the end of it was that the leak was blocked too (since it contained addresses of child porn). Personally I guess they just didn't wanted to have to explain why they blocked a site for a Duck forklift renting company (to be fair, those were some sexy forklifts, they were less than 18 and they didn't have much clothing on).
    - maeon3 15y ago
      The ministry of purity has determined that your website offends the invisible powers that be. It has been purified. Thank you for your cooperation. This decision may not be appealed or challenged or examined. You may not ask how this decision has been reached because if you do, you would be exposed to impure thoughts.
samiru 15y ago
Just cancelled my Spotify subscription. Money talks.
- white_devil 15y ago
  Spotify is from Sweden though.
  - samiru 15y ago
    Sure, nothing against the Spotify per se. But it's the copyright holders and their lobbying that is behind these laws. If you want to send a message, stop using their services (or buying products) all together.
    - wmf 15y ago
      Unfortunately, giving them less money sends the message that they should redouble their anti-piracy efforts.
      - samiru 15y ago
        Which is going to push even more people to underground.
      - deleted 15y ago
        [deleted]
      - cabalamat 15y ago
        True, but if everyone stopped giving them money, they wouldn't have any money to put into anti-piracy efforts. This is going to be a long, hard fight and we must take a long view of it. Any attritional warfare that causes the enemy long-term weakness is a good thing.
smokeyj 15y ago
Another slippery slope argument from the libertarians. /sarcasm
the_imp 15y ago
It looks like the address used to be a proxy for thepiratebay.org, but was redirected at some point after 5 November 2011, as indicated by http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3A0Nr4jIm7exMJ%3Avillen.fi%2F%253Fp%253D13%2Bpiraattilahti%26cd%3D3%26hl%3Dfi%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dfi&anno=2 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fi&tl... -- note that the "Pirate Bay. Com" of the title is a mistranslation of the original Finnish "Piraattilahti.fi".

by gizzlon 15y ago

bergie 15y ago

Seems we have a pattern for this in Finland. DNS blocking of suspected child porn sites went live some years ago. Then a researcher published critique on how it was handled (most of the blocked sites did not have any illegal material), and his site got blocked as well.

gizzlon 15y ago
What? Seriously? When criticism like this is censored, you're no longer living in a "free and open" society.. Sorry =(
- hpaavola 15y ago
  More on that issue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsiporno.info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsiporno.info
- tomjen3 15y ago
  The childporn system in Denmark was used to something similar. The actual list of websites is/was hidden, but got leaked to wikileaks -- a large amount of those banned sites were simply (adult) gay sites that had pissed somebody of. I am not sure, but I think the end of it was that the leak was blocked too (since it contained addresses of child porn). Personally I guess they just didn't wanted to have to explain why they blocked a site for a Duck forklift renting company (to be fair, those were some sexy forklifts, they were less than 18 and they didn't have much clothing on).
  - maeon3 15y ago
    The ministry of purity has determined that your website offends the invisible powers that be. It has been purified. Thank you for your cooperation. This decision may not be appealed or challenged or examined. You may not ask how this decision has been reached because if you do, you would be exposed to impure thoughts.

samiru 15y ago

Just cancelled my Spotify subscription. Money talks.

white_devil 15y ago
Spotify is from Sweden though.
- samiru 15y ago
  Sure, nothing against the Spotify per se. But it's the copyright holders and their lobbying that is behind these laws. If you want to send a message, stop using their services (or buying products) all together.
  - wmf 15y ago
    Unfortunately, giving them less money sends the message that they should redouble their anti-piracy efforts.
    - samiru 15y ago
      Which is going to push even more people to underground.
    - deleted 15y ago
      [deleted]
    - cabalamat 15y ago
      True, but if everyone stopped giving them money, they wouldn't have any money to put into anti-piracy efforts. This is going to be a long, hard fight and we must take a long view of it. Any attritional warfare that causes the enemy long-term weakness is a good thing.

smokeyj 15y ago

Another slippery slope argument from the libertarians. /sarcasm

the_imp 15y ago

It looks like the address used to be a proxy for thepiratebay.org, but was redirected at some point after 5 November 2011, as indicated by http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3A0Nr4jIm7exMJ%3Avillen.fi%2F%253Fp%253D13%2Bpiraattilahti%26cd%3D3%26hl%3Dfi%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dfi&anno=2 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fi&tl... -- note that the "Pirate Bay. Com" of the title is a mistranslation of the original Finnish "Piraattilahti.fi".