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No. The USA doesn't own Japan to begin with so it can't lose it. China would never succeed in invading Japan.
by 77pt77 4y ago
No. The USA doesn't own Japan to begin with so it can't lose it.
China would never succeed in invading Japan.
- yellowapple 4y agoI don't own my friends, but I'd nonetheless hate to lose them.
- pastacacioepepe 4y agoThe meaning of "to lose" obviously changes depending on the context. You can't apply the meaning it has when talking about friendship whn you're talking about geopolitics. I'd expect a bit more of literary finesse from a writer on a website called "The Scholar's Stage".
- freejazz 4y agoTIL today: countries can't be friendly with each other
- krapp 4y agoNations don't have friends, they have interests. Leaders may act friendly towards one another, and policies may seem friendly when interests correlate, but no nation sends their young men and women off to die on foreign soil for the power of friendship alone.
- freejazz 4y agoYou are just being obtuse about the common use of language.
- Swenrekcah 4y agoI understand your point but if the world and human experience was truly this cynical, then how do you explain the European people supporting their governments assisting Ukrainians, when continuing the conflict is causing themselves direct discomfort and expense?
- pastacacioepepe 4y ago> how do you explain the European people supporting their governments assisting Ukrainians I'm European and I still have to meet someone ready to sacrifice something for Ukraine. People are extremely worried about the state of our economy, much more so than they are about what's happening in Ukraine. I keep hearing members of the elite like Stoltenberg talking about being ready to make sacrifices for Ukraine, but Stoltenber won't actually have to sacrifice anything. A 50% rise in the cost of living won't affect his lifestyle in the slightest, while it will destroy the livelihood of many families. In any case, we've all been subjected to unprecedented levels of propaganda. It's not a surprise that many feel more concerned about what's happening in Ukraine than in Yemen.
- freejazz 4y agoWow, big surprise that someone glommed onto that comment to make a completely besides the point political rant
- pastacacioepepe 4y agoI'm literally replying to the parent comment. If something is beside the point, that is your comment.
- Swenrekcah 4y agoI don’t actually think you responded to anything I said, instead responded to a strawman about elite politicians, generalised your circle of friends to a whole continent (there have been polls on the support you know) and finally made the dubious argument that warm feelings towards Ukrainians don’t count because there are other things happening in the world as well.
- yellowapple 4y ago> The meaning of "to lose" obviously changes depending on the context. And the context of geopolitics is much closer to friendship than ownership.
- kneebonian 4y agoThat seems unnecessarily dismissive, how many people said in 1942 that Germany would never succeed in invading France? As far as I am aware Japan doesn't have a particularly large standing military, and isn't that far away. Meanwhile the Chinese could, and probably would, be willing to drown the entire island in human wave tactics.
- Apocryphon 4y agoNaval invasions are inherently far more difficult than land invasions.
- amalgamated_inc 4y agoEspecially when you don't have a real navy.
- ianburrell 4y agoThe PLAN has gotten much better. They have started building a proper aircraft carrier. They have been building good destroyers. China has the second best navy in the world. The problem is that it isn't enough for amphibious invasion of Japan or Taiwan. They don't have enough amphibious ships. And the ships would be very vulnerable to anti-ship missiles. Truck-mounted anti-ship missiles, which Japan has a bunch and Taiwan should be buying, have changed things. The other thing that has made amphibious invasion infeasible are multiple rocket launchers, like HIMARS given to Ukraine, which can wipe out an entire beachhead.
- Apocryphon 4y agoThis prior comment, which is probably hyperbolic, always stuck with me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33248946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33248946 > Can you imagine what a landing beach would look like being pounded by drone spotted artillery? See war in Ukraine. Forget the approach, anti ship missiles, mines, sheer volume of logistics needed. Stepping on the landing beach is a suicide without absolutely astronomical advantage in air power and ability to suffer huge attrition, even then.. 155mm hidden under camo/thermal nets, DJI drone rigged with magazines of small bombs.. Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson Childs play, this would make Diep and Galipoli look like walk in the park. > I would go as far as to say that US Army + Marines + Navy could not land on Taiwan without suffering multiple brigades of attrition AFTER at least a year long blockade and air campaign. It is that hard. > PRC has to surpass US in GDP, then spend 10-20 years of US level military spending, then maybe.