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The M2 Air has MagSafe. (= Killing MagSafe has to be the singled DUMBEST product decision anyone ever made. I'm so glad they finally brought it back.

djtriptych 4y ago
It's like they sandbagged themselves knowing they were going to change the whole game in a few years.
prewett 4y ago
I thought killing MagSafe was pretty dumb, too, but every time I tripped over the USB-C power cable on my 2018 MBP it came right out, no problem. Plus it's really nice to be able to move the power cable to whichever side the outlet is close to. When I upgrade, I think I'd choose to continue using USB-C power if possible. I'll actually miss the Touch Bar. It's an interesting idea that seems useful, but isn't, except in one very useful case: it's really nice being able to slide the volume to exactly where I want it. With the keys back I'll have to memorize Shift+Option+VolumeUp (or whatever it is).
- rconti 4y ago
  I've also tripped on a magsafe cord and watched my 2011 air fly off the table and bounce+flip on my wood floor, so it's not a panacea. I think the right-angle ones were more prone to yanking your machine off the table, especially if pulled perpendicular to the magnetic connection. Thankfully, the computer was perfectly fine.
- theturtletalks 4y ago
  Without Apple removing MagSafe, we wouldn’t have had USB-C charging on MacBooks.
  - godzillabrennus 4y ago
    At least until the European Union forced them too…
- jokethrowaway 4y ago
  I tripped on my usbc cord and broke the cable
- jrochkind1 4y ago
  > When I upgrade, I think I'd choose to continue using USB-C power if possible. It is possible. You can ignore the magsafe and power via any of the USB-C ports on the MBPs that also have magsafe, definitely.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  The MacBook Air at least still supports USB-C power, which is useful for USB-C monitors that also supply power. But I still think you need to plug it in on the right side to avoid overheating the laptop (the MBA at least doesn't have a fan, so I can't tell if this is still true or not).
  - peterloron 4y ago
    My 2021 MBP 16" M1 Max doesn't get hot with the USB-C power connected to the left side. Unknown if that's still an issue with the Air.
  - ProZsolt 4y ago
    It would be pretty hard to put a charge on the right side as it only have a headphone jack there every other port (2xUSB+Magsafe) is on the left. On the other hand, my M1 Pro MacBook Pro don't have any problem charging on either side, not like my previous Intel.
jrochkind1 4y ago
Oh, I missed that! and then it has one usb port, or two? If it has two plus magsafe and i had noticed, i might have bought that!
- msk-lywenn 4y ago
  It has two USB-Cs and magsafe on the left side, audio jack on the right side. I wish it had an HDMI too. I might buy a USB-C-HDMI cable at some point.
  - jrochkind1 4y ago
    Thanks! In retrospect, I think i would have bought the Air! I somehow thought the Air still had only two USB-Cs, one of which would be occupied by power if plugged in. Which was not enough. Two USB-Cs plus a separate magsafe would, barely, be enough for me. the price difference is not huge once I put in 16GB of RAM and a 1TB HD. But the smaller size of the Air is nice! I suspect even the Air is enough CPU for me, although the new M2 MBP seems like a lot more CPU I think.
jclardy 4y ago
I’m glad to have it as an option, but I think I’ve used my magsafe cable for charging two times in the past two years. The incredible battery life + switching my desk setup to USB-C means I pretty much never need to charge outside of normal usage at my desk
ProZsolt 4y ago
Back then I liked the Magsafe, but the my new Macbook's Magsafe cable is still in the box. With 12+ hours of battery life I barely charge it when I use it and when I'm it is usually at my desk connected to my monitor via USB-C. When I'm on the go I only want to bring one charger and cable for backup for every device, which is USB-C. (I don't own an iPhone)
interpol_p 4y ago
I have never used the MagSafe connector for my 14" MBP. It either sits docked with my monitor which provides power over USB-C, or when I take it, I don't take the power brick. I've taken it camping over three days and never had to charge, so having a dedicated charging port doesn't really suit my use (also not a fan of them adding HDMI back to the machine)

djtriptych 4y ago

It's like they sandbagged themselves knowing they were going to change the whole game in a few years.

prewett 4y ago

I thought killing MagSafe was pretty dumb, too, but every time I tripped over the USB-C power cable on my 2018 MBP it came right out, no problem. Plus it's really nice to be able to move the power cable to whichever side the outlet is close to. When I upgrade, I think I'd choose to continue using USB-C power if possible. I'll actually miss the Touch Bar. It's an interesting idea that seems useful, but isn't, except in one very useful case: it's really nice being able to slide the volume to exactly where I want it. With the keys back I'll have to memorize Shift+Option+VolumeUp (or whatever it is).

rconti 4y ago
I've also tripped on a magsafe cord and watched my 2011 air fly off the table and bounce+flip on my wood floor, so it's not a panacea. I think the right-angle ones were more prone to yanking your machine off the table, especially if pulled perpendicular to the magnetic connection. Thankfully, the computer was perfectly fine.
theturtletalks 4y ago
Without Apple removing MagSafe, we wouldn’t have had USB-C charging on MacBooks.
- godzillabrennus 4y ago
  At least until the European Union forced them too…
jokethrowaway 4y ago
I tripped on my usbc cord and broke the cable
jrochkind1 4y ago
> When I upgrade, I think I'd choose to continue using USB-C power if possible. It is possible. You can ignore the magsafe and power via any of the USB-C ports on the MBPs that also have magsafe, definitely.
seanmcdirmid 4y ago
The MacBook Air at least still supports USB-C power, which is useful for USB-C monitors that also supply power. But I still think you need to plug it in on the right side to avoid overheating the laptop (the MBA at least doesn't have a fan, so I can't tell if this is still true or not).
- peterloron 4y ago
  My 2021 MBP 16" M1 Max doesn't get hot with the USB-C power connected to the left side. Unknown if that's still an issue with the Air.
- ProZsolt 4y ago
  It would be pretty hard to put a charge on the right side as it only have a headphone jack there every other port (2xUSB+Magsafe) is on the left. On the other hand, my M1 Pro MacBook Pro don't have any problem charging on either side, not like my previous Intel.

jrochkind1 4y ago

Oh, I missed that! and then it has one usb port, or two? If it has two plus magsafe and i had noticed, i might have bought that!

msk-lywenn 4y ago
It has two USB-Cs and magsafe on the left side, audio jack on the right side. I wish it had an HDMI too. I might buy a USB-C-HDMI cable at some point.
- jrochkind1 4y ago
  Thanks! In retrospect, I think i would have bought the Air! I somehow thought the Air still had only two USB-Cs, one of which would be occupied by power if plugged in. Which was not enough. Two USB-Cs plus a separate magsafe would, barely, be enough for me. the price difference is not huge once I put in 16GB of RAM and a 1TB HD. But the smaller size of the Air is nice! I suspect even the Air is enough CPU for me, although the new M2 MBP seems like a lot more CPU I think.

jclardy 4y ago

I’m glad to have it as an option, but I think I’ve used my magsafe cable for charging two times in the past two years. The incredible battery life + switching my desk setup to USB-C means I pretty much never need to charge outside of normal usage at my desk

ProZsolt 4y ago

Back then I liked the Magsafe, but the my new Macbook's Magsafe cable is still in the box. With 12+ hours of battery life I barely charge it when I use it and when I'm it is usually at my desk connected to my monitor via USB-C. When I'm on the go I only want to bring one charger and cable for backup for every device, which is USB-C. (I don't own an iPhone)

interpol_p 4y ago

I have never used the MagSafe connector for my 14" MBP. It either sits docked with my monitor which provides power over USB-C, or when I take it, I don't take the power brick. I've taken it camping over three days and never had to charge, so having a dedicated charging port doesn't really suit my use (also not a fan of them adding HDMI back to the machine)