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It's the lack of diversity at those companies, ironically enough. Twitter had something like 99% voting for the Dems. That can't happen by accident. Would be wi

It's the lack of diversity at those companies, ironically enough. Twitter had something like 99% voting for the Dems. That can't happen by accident. Would be willing to bet that OpenAI isn't much different. They've been systematically getting rid of conservatives for so long that they no longer even recognize or understand other points of view at all (or only via stereotypes pushed by magazines like Vice).

mindslight 4y ago
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- shitlord 4y ago
  > It's not hard to understand why analytical people who work with computers and have economic prospects aren't particularly interested in that. If the argument is that we are motivated by self interest, wouldn't we support the fundamentalists who will reduce our tax burden?
  - eulenteufel 4y ago
    People employed in big tech companies in Silicon Valley probably don't have to worry so much about their tax burden and thus are relatively free to vote based on their values.
  - mindslight 4y ago
    A few percent of income tax versus quality of life? Quality of life will win out every time. (Furthermore, this meme that Republicans are financially beneficial is fallacious. The problem is that economic effects take a long time to become apparent, so the current guy gets blamed for the effects of the last guy)
    - shitlord 4y ago
      Do the benefits you receive from Democrats holding power outweigh the increase in disposable income? I think if you ask different people you'll receive different answers because it ultimately comes down to how you value those benefits. If not, why would any intelligent person ever vote for a Republican?
      - mindslight 4y ago
        As I started off saying, the Republican party has recently started having some very poor direct effects on everybody's lives, so the answer to that question has become yes. My original comment wasn't as a blue partisan, but rather a leave-me-alone libertarian. In 2016, yes "both sides" just channel popular frustration into corporatist policies. Abstract abortion vs abstract guns kayfabe, but really centralization and corporate welfare uber alles. I was the one telling my blue tribe friends why Trump was going to win, while they didn't want to hear it. I had never voted for a major party candidate in any national race (until 2020). But in 2023? The inmates have solidly taken over the Republican asylum, in a way that the extremist wackos in the blue tribe have not (yet?). The only intelligent reason I can see to support the insanity is that you want to see the system run aground and crash. This isn't meant as an indictment - 20 or even 10 years ago I would have been right there with you. If you want to explain another intelligent reason to vote Republican, I'm all ears. I'd love to return to my prior state of understanding the merit in both tribes' points of view. Just please don't base it on opposing cherry picked blue tribe insanity that hasn't actually captured the Democratic party, or things that are still basically symmetrical (eg Biden's student loan giveaway vs Trump's Covid giveaway).
- unconed 4y ago
  >utter garbage like denying women modern medical care. As became clearly to many for the first time after the SC decision, abortion laws in the US would be considered extreme even in western Europe. I mean, elective abortion in the third trimester? This is literally justifying anyone who ever called it baby-killing. The fact that you summarize this kind of policy extremism as "modern medical care" that any "analytical person" would agree with, and any opposition to it as fundamentalism and backwards... that's a perfect illustration of the woke mindset yes. Utterly provincial, zero empathy for anyone who disagrees, and a massively unwarranted sense of self-importance.
  - crote 4y ago
    You seem to be forgetting that a lot of US legislators are trying to ban all abortion, not just elective third trimester abortion.
    - unconed 4y ago
      I am not. This is called whiplash. If you push and push and push, and call anyone who dissents an extremist, eventually someone will do that to you. You'd think the woke would have realized that by now. But they seem incapable of modeling their opponents as anything other than evil. Personally I think that if women want to unilaterally decide to keep or abort, then fatherhood should be opt-in. Fair is fair. And if fathers can't wiggle out of parenthood, neither should women. The argument that he should've kept it in his pants is the exact same as saying she should've kept her legs shut. Either you agree with both, or with neither.
      - mindslight 4y ago
        > Personally I think that if women want to unilaterally decide to keep or abort, then fatherhood should be opt-in Would it help convince you that I'm not a member of this strawman "woke mob" by saying I wholeheartedly agree with you on this? As I said in another comment, I'm not coming from this as a blue partisan, but rather a leave me alone libertarian who has been reluctantly pushed into voting conservative (which in 2023 means Democrat). Your argument here is just both sidesing "extremism" into moral relativism. In the real world, providing straightforward necessary medical care has been criminalized. This isn't hypothetical, but direct backwards-thinking oppression caused by a specific political movement, focusing on a straw man of third trimester elective abortions while writing off the collateral damage. For this not to be a straw man, you'd need to put forth statistics about the number of third trimester elective abortions (healthy normal pregnancies with no birth defects, etc), showing it's a significant topic. And if you want to advocate for banning that specifically, then I will understand where you're coming from. But so far you've just used it as a motte and bailey to ignore the scope of what has actually been criminalized.

mindslight 4y ago

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shitlord 4y ago
> It's not hard to understand why analytical people who work with computers and have economic prospects aren't particularly interested in that. If the argument is that we are motivated by self interest, wouldn't we support the fundamentalists who will reduce our tax burden?
- eulenteufel 4y ago
  People employed in big tech companies in Silicon Valley probably don't have to worry so much about their tax burden and thus are relatively free to vote based on their values.
- mindslight 4y ago
  A few percent of income tax versus quality of life? Quality of life will win out every time. (Furthermore, this meme that Republicans are financially beneficial is fallacious. The problem is that economic effects take a long time to become apparent, so the current guy gets blamed for the effects of the last guy)
  - shitlord 4y ago
    Do the benefits you receive from Democrats holding power outweigh the increase in disposable income? I think if you ask different people you'll receive different answers because it ultimately comes down to how you value those benefits. If not, why would any intelligent person ever vote for a Republican?
    - mindslight 4y ago
      As I started off saying, the Republican party has recently started having some very poor direct effects on everybody's lives, so the answer to that question has become yes. My original comment wasn't as a blue partisan, but rather a leave-me-alone libertarian. In 2016, yes "both sides" just channel popular frustration into corporatist policies. Abstract abortion vs abstract guns kayfabe, but really centralization and corporate welfare uber alles. I was the one telling my blue tribe friends why Trump was going to win, while they didn't want to hear it. I had never voted for a major party candidate in any national race (until 2020). But in 2023? The inmates have solidly taken over the Republican asylum, in a way that the extremist wackos in the blue tribe have not (yet?). The only intelligent reason I can see to support the insanity is that you want to see the system run aground and crash. This isn't meant as an indictment - 20 or even 10 years ago I would have been right there with you. If you want to explain another intelligent reason to vote Republican, I'm all ears. I'd love to return to my prior state of understanding the merit in both tribes' points of view. Just please don't base it on opposing cherry picked blue tribe insanity that hasn't actually captured the Democratic party, or things that are still basically symmetrical (eg Biden's student loan giveaway vs Trump's Covid giveaway).
unconed 4y ago
>utter garbage like denying women modern medical care. As became clearly to many for the first time after the SC decision, abortion laws in the US would be considered extreme even in western Europe. I mean, elective abortion in the third trimester? This is literally justifying anyone who ever called it baby-killing. The fact that you summarize this kind of policy extremism as "modern medical care" that any "analytical person" would agree with, and any opposition to it as fundamentalism and backwards... that's a perfect illustration of the woke mindset yes. Utterly provincial, zero empathy for anyone who disagrees, and a massively unwarranted sense of self-importance.
- crote 4y ago
  You seem to be forgetting that a lot of US legislators are trying to ban all abortion, not just elective third trimester abortion.
  - unconed 4y ago
    I am not. This is called whiplash. If you push and push and push, and call anyone who dissents an extremist, eventually someone will do that to you. You'd think the woke would have realized that by now. But they seem incapable of modeling their opponents as anything other than evil. Personally I think that if women want to unilaterally decide to keep or abort, then fatherhood should be opt-in. Fair is fair. And if fathers can't wiggle out of parenthood, neither should women. The argument that he should've kept it in his pants is the exact same as saying she should've kept her legs shut. Either you agree with both, or with neither.
    - mindslight 4y ago
      > Personally I think that if women want to unilaterally decide to keep or abort, then fatherhood should be opt-in Would it help convince you that I'm not a member of this strawman "woke mob" by saying I wholeheartedly agree with you on this? As I said in another comment, I'm not coming from this as a blue partisan, but rather a leave me alone libertarian who has been reluctantly pushed into voting conservative (which in 2023 means Democrat). Your argument here is just both sidesing "extremism" into moral relativism. In the real world, providing straightforward necessary medical care has been criminalized. This isn't hypothetical, but direct backwards-thinking oppression caused by a specific political movement, focusing on a straw man of third trimester elective abortions while writing off the collateral damage. For this not to be a straw man, you'd need to put forth statistics about the number of third trimester elective abortions (healthy normal pregnancies with no birth defects, etc), showing it's a significant topic. And if you want to advocate for banning that specifically, then I will understand where you're coming from. But so far you've just used it as a motte and bailey to ignore the scope of what has actually been criminalized.