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Ignore what? Have you been to China? The author isn't saying China is perfect. He's simply pointing out Western anti-China propaganda.

seanmcdirmid 4y ago
It is just strawman: look at some extreme reporting on China, therefore all reporting about China in the west is wrong. It would be like judging Chinese media based on editorials in Globaltimes.cn.
- smalltalkcoder 4y ago
  I've followed Western media studiously for years. NYT, WSJ, CNN, BBC, etc. I've yet to see a story about China that doesn't spin things negatively for China. It doesn't have to be "extreme reporting."
  - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
    There are plenty of reporting on China in the western media that just reports..you know...news. You can spot check whatever china-related articles are showing on western media specific pages (assuming you aren't in China and therefore are blocked from those sources, of course): https://www.cnn.com/world/china https://www.cnn.com/world/china https://www.nytimes.com/topic/destination/china https://www.nytimes.com/topic/destination/china https://www.wsj.com/news/types/china-news?mod=nav_top_subsection https://www.wsj.com/news/types/china-news?mod=nav_top_subsec... https://www.economist.com/china https://www.economist.com/china Just browsing the headlines, most of the stories are boring reports and wouldn't incite outrage even in a wolf warrior. But those aren't the ones that get shared around as anti-chinese articles, so...you know...selection bias.
    - smalltalkcoder 4y ago
      Of course, I don't read "boring reports". I mostly read opinion pieces and journalists with on-site reporting.
      - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
        Most news is boring; e.g. look at the first 15 minutes of the CCTV 7 PM news cast, it is just what Xi Jinping did today! If you just want to consume opinion pieces, then why not just look at FoxNews? WSJ and Economist, especially, are in a different boat since they cater to business readers, and they would lose money if reporting on China was constrained to just opinion pieces. > journalists with on-site reporting Despite China's best efforts to deport foreign journalists, there are still more than a few left.
- smalltalkcoder 4y ago
  It's worth mentioning that every time I watch Joe Biden or Antony Blinken or Jake Sullivan or Nancy Pelosi or anyone from the US government hold a press conference about China, their words are deceitful and aggressive. That's not my imagination. When the general public sees all this on television, it is extremely influential (such is the power of television media). And, of course, all of this is repeated on social media. So I don't think it's a strawman at all.

seanmcdirmid 4y ago

It is just strawman: look at some extreme reporting on China, therefore all reporting about China in the west is wrong. It would be like judging Chinese media based on editorials in Globaltimes.cn.

smalltalkcoder 4y ago
I've followed Western media studiously for years. NYT, WSJ, CNN, BBC, etc. I've yet to see a story about China that doesn't spin things negatively for China. It doesn't have to be "extreme reporting."
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  There are plenty of reporting on China in the western media that just reports..you know...news. You can spot check whatever china-related articles are showing on western media specific pages (assuming you aren't in China and therefore are blocked from those sources, of course): https://www.cnn.com/world/china https://www.cnn.com/world/china https://www.nytimes.com/topic/destination/china https://www.nytimes.com/topic/destination/china https://www.wsj.com/news/types/china-news?mod=nav_top_subsection https://www.wsj.com/news/types/china-news?mod=nav_top_subsec... https://www.economist.com/china https://www.economist.com/china Just browsing the headlines, most of the stories are boring reports and wouldn't incite outrage even in a wolf warrior. But those aren't the ones that get shared around as anti-chinese articles, so...you know...selection bias.
  - smalltalkcoder 4y ago
    Of course, I don't read "boring reports". I mostly read opinion pieces and journalists with on-site reporting.
    - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
      Most news is boring; e.g. look at the first 15 minutes of the CCTV 7 PM news cast, it is just what Xi Jinping did today! If you just want to consume opinion pieces, then why not just look at FoxNews? WSJ and Economist, especially, are in a different boat since they cater to business readers, and they would lose money if reporting on China was constrained to just opinion pieces. > journalists with on-site reporting Despite China's best efforts to deport foreign journalists, there are still more than a few left.
smalltalkcoder 4y ago
It's worth mentioning that every time I watch Joe Biden or Antony Blinken or Jake Sullivan or Nancy Pelosi or anyone from the US government hold a press conference about China, their words are deceitful and aggressive. That's not my imagination. When the general public sees all this on television, it is extremely influential (such is the power of television media). And, of course, all of this is repeated on social media. So I don't think it's a strawman at all.