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I think it's a bit harsh to call them xenophobic, but I did have a similar thought recently. What's worse, manufacturing cheap junk for pay, or filling your ho

I think it's a bit harsh to call them xenophobic, but I did have a similar thought recently. What's worse, manufacturing cheap junk for pay, or filling your home with cheap junk?

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winrid 4y ago
Maybe it was harsh. However I think it makes the Chinese people look bad, where they aren't really to blame. The CCP keeps labor prices low, and we exploit it, and then we sit here and complain the stuff they make is junk.
- em500 4y ago
  Labor prices are much lower in India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines among others, than they are in China. So there is a bit more to the story than "the CCP keeps labor prices low".
- wkat4242 4y ago
  > Maybe it was harsh. However I think it makes the Chinese people look bad, where they aren't really to blame. The CCP keeps labor prices low, and we exploit it, and then we sit here and complain the stuff they make is junk. When someone says "Chinese junk" you're not really insulting the people IMO. Just the cheap grade disposable crap you can find in corner bazaars. That stuff that breaks after 2 uses. Like someone else said, in the 80s "made in Taiwan" was a rubbing joke and before that Japan. But it has nothing to do with the people, just the phase their industry is in. It's like people here in Europe saying American cars are gas guzzlers (which they mostly are compared to EU models). You wouldn't take that personally.
- SyzygistSix 4y ago
  The cost of labor has increased a lot in China and hundreds of millions have been lifted out of poverty. Perhaps other choices could do an even better job but certainly a far worse policies could be instituted.
FpUser 4y ago
>"What's worse, manufacturing cheap junk for pay, or filling your home with cheap junk?" Thanks to modern economy in Canada for example people with median and below income currently can't afford to buy anything but junk. Same goes for quality food. Price of accommodation, food and many other things have skyrocketed. This is what is "worse"
- gotorazor 4y ago
  Just did a trip to Loblaws in Toronto yesterday. I disagree. Organic groceries -- sure -- median income people can't really afford it. The traditional, raw items common to the Anglo-Irish diet like potatoes, corn, flour, butter, cabbage, etc are super cheap in Canada. Meat pricing has been super challenging since the pandemic started. Canada don't really have the same kind of agricultural subsidies that the United States has. Buying a bag of doritos isn't cheaper than a bag of potatoes. Nor, a big mac cheaper than raw ground beef.
  - FpUser 4y ago
    >"potatoes, corn, flour, butter, ... doritos" Making those your main source is highly unhealthy. It does not matter if it is called "Anglo-Irish". Greens, veggies, decent fruits, meat, fish - through the roof. In Loblaws in particular as I often shop in one. Vine tomatoes - $5 (used to pay $2). Fucking green onions - $2 for pathetic bunch (used to pay $0.5 for a bunch at least 3 times as big). Smaller box of mixed greens - $6 (used to pay $3-$3.50). Etc. etc. All of this regular, never mind organic. Meanwhile median income in Toronto is just below 40K - https://wowa.ca/average-income-canada#Toronto https://wowa.ca/average-income-canada#Toronto . Combine it with the cost of accommodation and you get an idea.
    - jvnnmfjvfjvflkj 4y ago
      A single meal at McDonald's is still pricier. What junk food is cheaper?
      - FpUser 4y ago

I think it's a bit harsh to call them xenophobic, but I did have a similar thought recently. What's worse, manufacturing cheap junk for pay, or filling your home with cheap junk?

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winrid 4y ago

Maybe it was harsh. However I think it makes the Chinese people look bad, where they aren't really to blame. The CCP keeps labor prices low, and we exploit it, and then we sit here and complain the stuff they make is junk.

em500 4y ago
Labor prices are much lower in India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines among others, than they are in China. So there is a bit more to the story than "the CCP keeps labor prices low".
wkat4242 4y ago
> Maybe it was harsh. However I think it makes the Chinese people look bad, where they aren't really to blame. The CCP keeps labor prices low, and we exploit it, and then we sit here and complain the stuff they make is junk. When someone says "Chinese junk" you're not really insulting the people IMO. Just the cheap grade disposable crap you can find in corner bazaars. That stuff that breaks after 2 uses. Like someone else said, in the 80s "made in Taiwan" was a rubbing joke and before that Japan. But it has nothing to do with the people, just the phase their industry is in. It's like people here in Europe saying American cars are gas guzzlers (which they mostly are compared to EU models). You wouldn't take that personally.
SyzygistSix 4y ago
The cost of labor has increased a lot in China and hundreds of millions have been lifted out of poverty. Perhaps other choices could do an even better job but certainly a far worse policies could be instituted.

FpUser 4y ago

>"What's worse, manufacturing cheap junk for pay, or filling your home with cheap junk?" Thanks to modern economy in Canada for example people with median and below income currently can't afford to buy anything but junk. Same goes for quality food. Price of accommodation, food and many other things have skyrocketed. This is what is "worse"

gotorazor 4y ago
Just did a trip to Loblaws in Toronto yesterday. I disagree. Organic groceries -- sure -- median income people can't really afford it. The traditional, raw items common to the Anglo-Irish diet like potatoes, corn, flour, butter, cabbage, etc are super cheap in Canada. Meat pricing has been super challenging since the pandemic started. Canada don't really have the same kind of agricultural subsidies that the United States has. Buying a bag of doritos isn't cheaper than a bag of potatoes. Nor, a big mac cheaper than raw ground beef.
- FpUser 4y ago
  >"potatoes, corn, flour, butter, ... doritos" Making those your main source is highly unhealthy. It does not matter if it is called "Anglo-Irish". Greens, veggies, decent fruits, meat, fish - through the roof. In Loblaws in particular as I often shop in one. Vine tomatoes - $5 (used to pay $2). Fucking green onions - $2 for pathetic bunch (used to pay $0.5 for a bunch at least 3 times as big). Smaller box of mixed greens - $6 (used to pay $3-$3.50). Etc. etc. All of this regular, never mind organic. Meanwhile median income in Toronto is just below 40K - https://wowa.ca/average-income-canada#Toronto https://wowa.ca/average-income-canada#Toronto . Combine it with the cost of accommodation and you get an idea.
  - jvnnmfjvfjvflkj 4y ago
    A single meal at McDonald's is still pricier. What junk food is cheaper?
    - FpUser 4y ago