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In the same way the assassination of Ferdinand started WW1, that is to say, both would have likely happened anyways.
by bigmattystyles 4y ago
In the same way the assassination of Ferdinand started WW1, that is to say, both would have likely happened anyways.
- hcurtiss 4y agoYes, the relative abundance produced by capitalism would have overcome the USSR/Russia even absent Yeltsin's visit. Everywhere communism has been tried, it's failed, and the most assertive efforts have led to the death of tens of millions.
- kneebonian 4y ago[flagged]
- UncleSlacky 4y agoGiven that communism is stateless, moneyless and classless, it really wasn't real communism.
- refurb 4y agoIdeas are useless if they can’t be implemented.
- UncleSlacky 4y ago"Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?"
- refurb 4y agoNumerous countries have tried and failed. We gave it a go, it doesn’t work.
- pydry 4y agoIf USSR escaped unscathed from WW2 and America had instead been nearly destroyed we'd probably be hearing the exact opposite.
- tekla 4y agoOh yes, since Post Civil War and Pre WW2 Soviet Union was an amazingly productive economy without multiple famines and definitely didn't shoot over a million of their own citizens without a good reason.
- pydry 4y agoThe growth was pretty staggering, yeah. They progressed from agrarian to first man in space in 40 years.
- allarm 4y agoThe cost of that though. My grandmother and her sister were two survivors out of five children. The rest of the kids died of hunger and sickness during random migrations between villages in 1930s. Her father lost everything he had because soviets decided it’s theirs now, so the whole family had to move someplace else to find a new home. Not everyone had made it.
- tekla 4y agoThe growth was staggering because they stole grain and farmland from their citizens, exported it to buy machinery because the USSR couldn't manufacture themselves, which was also wasted since they didn't have the ability to keep the machines maintained properly. So yeah, turns out you can do things if you starve your people to death. (See North Korea)
- pydry 4y agoThey industrialized fast enough to defeat the Nazis who otherwise would probably have exterminated them. The urgency and the threat they faced if they didnt industrialize quickly enough was real and existential. And yes, in order to do so they caused millions of Ukrainians to starve by exporting all of the food they grew. Exactly like Britain did to my ancestors in Ireland for profit.