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What’s bad about Ventura? I’m out of the loop

highwaylights 4y ago
The settings page doesn't work for one thing. Not badly designed (which I believe it is), but it just plain is a buggy mess. I've also had to manually fix permissions problems on directories that in the UI do not show as granted, but are actually enabled and allowing file reads/writes (the UI is just showing that permissions haven't been granted when they have, which is incredibly dangerous).
- vehemenz 4y ago
  I don't mind the new organization of System Settings.app, but the search field is extremely slow and doesn't always return a sensible top result. I was skeptical of it at first, but I think it was probably the right direction, assuming they continue improve it.
nhubbard 4y ago
People have been hating on the new System Settings app (a messy redesign that violates Apple's own design guidelines) and how almost every other enhancement is really minor. However, I've really enjoyed Ventura, because of the following (non-exhaustive list): * As a Mac admin: enterprise managed updates actually work compared to Monterey! * As a Mac developer: SwiftUI graphics rendering is significantly faster, closing in on AppKit levels of performance with no changes required! As a regular user: * A battery life leak that I noticed with Monterey 12.6.1 was fixed and my battery life became much better * The Weather app is absolutely amazing * Live Text is even better than before One issue that's been irking me is that I've had a lot more accidental Siri triggers while talking to other people, and even while watching movies and videos through the speakers. I'm going to re-do the Hey Siri set up to see if it fixes the issue.
geerlingguy 4y ago
Like most software these days it changed a lot of stuff, added a bunch of features, and while doing so introduced more instability. Apple really needs another 10.6 "Snow Leopard" style release: no new features, just stability and speed.
- Tempest1981 4y ago
  My favorite "Walt Mossberg" review of 10.6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W-ygu6_aDc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W-ygu6_aDc
aliqot 4y ago
It reduced battery life and consumes more resources for me on m2. I do roughly the same thing every day, so I'm used to when I need to plug in and can plan accordingly. Ventura has higher resource usage, and I need to plug up 70-90 minutes earlier, though sometimes up to 120 mins earlier.

The settings page doesn't work for one thing. Not badly designed (which I believe it is), but it just plain is a buggy mess. I've also had to manually fix permissions problems on directories that in the UI do not show as granted, but are actually enabled and allowing file reads/writes (the UI is just showing that permissions haven't been granted when they have, which is incredibly dangerous).

vehemenz 4y ago
I don't mind the new organization of System Settings.app, but the search field is extremely slow and doesn't always return a sensible top result. I was skeptical of it at first, but I think it was probably the right direction, assuming they continue improve it.

nhubbard 4y ago

People have been hating on the new System Settings app (a messy redesign that violates Apple's own design guidelines) and how almost every other enhancement is really minor. However, I've really enjoyed Ventura, because of the following (non-exhaustive list): * As a Mac admin: enterprise managed updates actually work compared to Monterey! * As a Mac developer: SwiftUI graphics rendering is significantly faster, closing in on AppKit levels of performance with no changes required! As a regular user: * A battery life leak that I noticed with Monterey 12.6.1 was fixed and my battery life became much better * The Weather app is absolutely amazing * Live Text is even better than before One issue that's been irking me is that I've had a lot more accidental Siri triggers while talking to other people, and even while watching movies and videos through the speakers. I'm going to re-do the Hey Siri set up to see if it fixes the issue.

geerlingguy 4y ago

Like most software these days it changed a lot of stuff, added a bunch of features, and while doing so introduced more instability. Apple really needs another 10.6 "Snow Leopard" style release: no new features, just stability and speed.

Tempest1981 4y ago
My favorite "Walt Mossberg" review of 10.6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W-ygu6_aDc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W-ygu6_aDc

aliqot 4y ago

It reduced battery life and consumes more resources for me on m2. I do roughly the same thing every day, so I'm used to when I need to plug in and can plan accordingly. Ventura has higher resource usage, and I need to plug up 70-90 minutes earlier, though sometimes up to 120 mins earlier.