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I had the same experience but never moved back from Xfce. Is there any particular reason you've now migrated back to KDE? What I particularly like about Xfce
by koyote 4y ago
I had the same experience but never moved back from Xfce.
Is there any particular reason you've now migrated back to KDE?
What I particularly like about Xfce is that it's not very bloated. KDE always seemed quite bloated to me.
- kombine 4y agoCan you define "bloated"? RAM consumption? Disk space? All are a cheap commodity these days. I've been using KDE for the past 8 years on and off, and uninterruptedly in the last two years. It's fast, powerful and rich.
- topaz0 4y agoI also found it to be slow on my (now 7 year old) laptop. Not everyone has the luxury of frequent upgrades. And I tend to prefer speed over bells and/or whistles.
- aidenn0 4y agoKDE hasn't gotten more resource intensive on my laptop (turns 7 soon) since it was when I installed it in mid 2016. It probably uses a 200-300 more MB of ram compared to XFCE, but the number of tabs open in my web-browser dominates any other memory usage on my system. The only thing that slowed my system down was the file indexer (Baloo); some people have said better now, but I never re-enabled it.
- kombine 4y agoThat. I disabled Baloo because it's cache was growing uncontrollably. And Firefox with many opened tabs uses most RAM anyway, in that sense I don't see how much it's the problem of KDE.
- everybodyknows 4y agoDid Baloo replace Nepomuk? How does Baloo compare with locate?
- aidenn0 4y ago> Did Baloo replace Nepomuk? Yes, or more specifically it replaced nepomuk-kde (NEPOMUK[1] is/was a EU standard for representing semantic data via RDF) > How does Baloo compare with locate? It indexes the contents of any files with MIME types that it knows how to convert to text. AFAIK locate only indexes paths, not contents. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(software)
- koyote 4y agoYes, all of those things. Sure, they are cheap, but if you ever try using Xfce (or similarly small DE) for a bit you will quickly realise just how slow other desktop environments (and Windows/OSX) are. Unnecessary animations is another one. I've seen a similar argument defending "bloated" websites but then whenever a minimal website (e.g., a text-only site) is posted, people are astonished at how snappy it is. That being said, I last used KDE over 10 years ago and computers have definitely become faster since then.
- kombine 4y agohttps://itvision.altervista.org/linux-desktop-environments-system-usage.html https://itvision.altervista.org/linux-desktop-environments-s... According to this test it uses approximately as much RAM as GNOME and 1GB more than XFCE. I guess on older hardware with 8GB RAM XFCE would make more sense, perhaps even for mobile devices where battery life is a scarce resource.
- ssnistfajen 4y agoA NUC-sized mini PC with Q1'21 Intel Celeron ran all three DEs with no noticeable difference in speed. Perhaps there's a difference for hardcore usage but it simply isn't applicable to the vast majority of use cases. So yes computers have definitely become much faster since 10 years ago that a lot of these "bloat" really aren't noticeable anymore.
- shrimp_emoji 4y agoI assert that one exception to this is compositing. Even if you're on a gaming rig with a really beefy GPU, you might not notice that DE compositing is on, but you will notice the difference once you turn it off. To test this, try dragging a window around on a high refresh rate monitor on LXDE (since that DE has no composition by default, iirc) and then on GNOME, KDE, et al. The overhead of composition extends to games as well, which is why I like KDE for being the only full-featured DE that lets you turn composition off.