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In the wake of all the fun in the comments already, id like to leave a quote for you all. "If you need violence to enforce your ideas, your ideas suck."
by deadly_syn 4y ago
In the wake of all the fun in the comments already, id like to leave a quote for you all.
"If you need violence to enforce your ideas, your ideas suck."
- orwin 4y agoI'll give you this: "violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" Now, please define what violence mean here. Only physical, against persons, or agaisnt property too. Does moral violence exist? Do people who have been abused have a right to organize protests and strike together, even if they don't have the same job (Learned recently that general strike was forbidden in the US, nice)? And if they don't, do they have the right to be incompetent ? I fell infinitely more compassion for any jan6 participants than for people who forbid rail workers from striking.
- deadly_syn 4y agoId argue any violence used to create a sensation of fear in order to coerce specific behavior. When the system itself is also a source of coercion I guess violence against the system can be justified if you're reacting to a threat to your personal liberties. But all in all, i think that it cuts deeper, there is definitely a mix of political opinion on hackernews, but i havent seen any significant examples of a facist militia member or black block antifa rioter. Those are both extreme ends of the american political dichotomy, but i dont think either are an embodiment of their respective ideas because they dont allow those ideas to flourish on their own. They're idealogically bankrupt so they MUST turn to violence. I dont see them as liberal or conservative but as nihilists (possibly even unknowingly) with no real association outside of an easy larp.