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How can prisoners file appeals or control their mental illness if they are isolated can't function properly? These prisons are beyond punishment and the steps S

How can prisoners file appeals or control their mental illness if they are isolated can't function properly? These prisons are beyond punishment and the steps Supermax takes to prevent suicide also seems inhumane considering the conditions.

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tiahura 4y ago
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- guerrilla 4y ago
  > It’s a necessary evil. No it's not. As the person you responded to pointed out it's basically torture when you're preventing suicide. If someone is such a permanent problem, execution and suicide are obviously options, but there are also many prisons that provide the isolation you want without being as bad. There's no excuse and it's far from "needed."
- sfusato 4y ago
  > most people accept that out of 8,000,000,000 people, there are 35 that need to sent to a facility like Guantanamo. Most people do not accept that most Guantánamo detainees have been/are being held without ever being charged or tried. The terrorist in this case is the US as harsh as that sounds.
  - lern_too_spel 4y ago
    > Most people do not accept that most Guantánamo detainees have been/are being held without ever being charged or tried. People are right not to accept that because it isn't true. Of the 35 Guantanamo Bay detainees, 3 are being held without charge. https://www.closeguantanamo.org/Prisoners https://www.closeguantanamo.org/Prisoners
- shrimp_emoji 4y ago
  This could be a quote about gulags or death camps. What's "necessary" is subjective, but at least we've got a fairly universal basis for "evil", as consolation.
- FpUser 4y ago
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  - gizmo385 4y ago
    Didn’t expect to read someone using slurs on hacker news either
- cies 4y ago
  >The goal is simply isolation to prevent recidivism. Simply? The goals is to have a prison outside of the US where the US (i think mainly CIA) can do things that it cannot when in the US. The goal is clearly to subvert the "rules based order" they so vocally claim to uphold.
- jakeinspace 4y ago
  I don't think most people are fascist, at least not to this extent.
- jcranmer 4y ago
  The goal of Guantanamo Bay was to try to evade the Constitution. It failed, however: SCOTUS still ruled that non-US citizens held by the US in non-US territory still retained certain constitutional rights with regards to criminal trials.
- blueflow 4y ago
  You would think differently if you were one of these 35 people.

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guerrilla 4y ago
> It’s a necessary evil. No it's not. As the person you responded to pointed out it's basically torture when you're preventing suicide. If someone is such a permanent problem, execution and suicide are obviously options, but there are also many prisons that provide the isolation you want without being as bad. There's no excuse and it's far from "needed."
sfusato 4y ago
> most people accept that out of 8,000,000,000 people, there are 35 that need to sent to a facility like Guantanamo. Most people do not accept that most Guantánamo detainees have been/are being held without ever being charged or tried. The terrorist in this case is the US as harsh as that sounds.
- lern_too_spel 4y ago
  > Most people do not accept that most Guantánamo detainees have been/are being held without ever being charged or tried. People are right not to accept that because it isn't true. Of the 35 Guantanamo Bay detainees, 3 are being held without charge. https://www.closeguantanamo.org/Prisoners https://www.closeguantanamo.org/Prisoners
shrimp_emoji 4y ago
This could be a quote about gulags or death camps. What's "necessary" is subjective, but at least we've got a fairly universal basis for "evil", as consolation.
FpUser 4y ago
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- gizmo385 4y ago
  Didn’t expect to read someone using slurs on hacker news either
cies 4y ago
>The goal is simply isolation to prevent recidivism. Simply? The goals is to have a prison outside of the US where the US (i think mainly CIA) can do things that it cannot when in the US. The goal is clearly to subvert the "rules based order" they so vocally claim to uphold.
jakeinspace 4y ago
I don't think most people are fascist, at least not to this extent.
jcranmer 4y ago
The goal of Guantanamo Bay was to try to evade the Constitution. It failed, however: SCOTUS still ruled that non-US citizens held by the US in non-US territory still retained certain constitutional rights with regards to criminal trials.
blueflow 4y ago
You would think differently if you were one of these 35 people.