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Twitter API Page
- eecc 4y agoWeren't third party Twitter clients already banned several years ago?
- RexGildo 4y agoThat’s spot on, they weren’t.
- lovelearning 4y agoYes, around 2012. A few years later, its CEO apologized and restored it. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-apologizes-173627475.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-apolo...
- eecc 4y agoSo it’s not something completely controversial that Twitter management broke third party platforms, those that might cut into their advertising and data collection machinery. Incidentally, this is the Tragedy of the Commons that keeps breaking messaging interoperability and stillbirthed the whole pindaric ode that was UDDI SOA, a Corporate oriented declination of TBL’s Semantic Web
- eecc 4y agoNot sure if "complaning about moderation" is taboo, but I'm a bit saddened that my comments to this issue are being diligently downvoted. I don't see any other reason other than "not having enough contempt for Elmo", although they do have some merit. I would expect such behavior on Arstechnica but here? SMH
- smileybarry 4y agoI'm assuming it's mostly because this ban was already reversed 10 years ago (an actual decade ago) because of the value these third-party clients brought to the platforms. Twitter may not have made money on targeted advertising to these users, but they consumed content, amplified, tweeted and probably drove(/became) traffic to "native" marketing by Twitter's advertisers. (Like: tweets by @Target or whatever)
- eecc 4y agoYeah, that’s a reasonable argument, thanks. OTOH 10 years is a long time, also business strategies and needs change. Just chalking it off to “Elmo does stupid” is cheap IMHO
- smileybarry 4y agoOh I definitely think it’s yet another short-sighted move by Elon. A “they’re using OUR data and NOT paying for it” kind of move.
- sanat 4y agoElon's a genius. </s>
- samwillis 4y agoI'm not sure what that link was supposed to be before it 404ed. But clicking through from the Twitter Developer homepage you can get to these: https://developer.twitter.com/en/products/twitter-api https://developer.twitter.com/en/products/twitter-api https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api All links to dev portal, product information and docs seem to work. I assume the post is suggesting the Twitter api has been "removed" in relation to the reader apps being blocked. But it looks like everything is there still. Anyone got more context on what the "missing" page was?
- Shadowed_ 4y agoThis is version from 2022-11-19: https://web.archive.org/web/20221119170753/https://developer.twitter.com/apitools/ https://web.archive.org/web/20221119170753/https://developer...
- athul_jayaram 4y agoThat's a well built page look's great
- thebradbain 4y agoApparently Twitter has specifically deactivated api access to certain apps, like Tweetdeck. That’s probably sparked uncertainty around the future of the twitter API https://twitter.com/theinformation/status/1614398769570668547?s=46&t=rGZUmHx_a-vGN51iv29FJg https://twitter.com/theinformation/status/161439876957066854...
- erk__ 4y agoTweetDeck would be really strange since it is owned by Twitter itself, but yeah it is apps like Tweetbot and other mobile apps. It is rather sad since 3rd party apps was a big plus for Twitter users especially before they made their API worse, but that was years ago.
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- magicloop 4y agoIt reminds me of: "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" which describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as: "A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes." I understand that Twitter no longer employs a comms team, so no comms on that particular issue. But... has the revolution come?
- elkos 4y agoIt's is a ruse from the communication dept. They are inciting the revolution all that time.
- jimmySixDOF 4y agoSo many minor flags already that the problem could be completely accidental. For example people search in android client no longer checks my following&followers. Odd audio behavior in Spaces. More than a few scattered bits of broken micro features work and then don't again. Meanwhile press coverage is look how they only needed half the people on staff so let's do this everywhere asap and recapture value for the poor shareholders.
- mrzool 4y ago> So many minor flags already that the problem could be completely accidental. I hope you're right, but honestly there are also legit reasons to think otherwise. It could be a fuck up due to staff shortage and knowledge loss crisis, but it could also be an impromptu, poorly implemented and communicated decision. Both scenarios would not be surprising at this point.
- rhaway84773 4y agoIt’s at least a fuck up with poor communications considering Twitter still hasn’t communicated what is going on
- matwood 4y agoThe longer it goes on, I'm thinking it's both. The initial down was an accident/breakage, but the people who could fix it were fired. Obviously this situation is embarrassing for Musk so no communication. But, now that's it's down there are probably discussions about leaving it down with no decision made yet.
- hairofadog 4y agoHasn’t it been established that it’s intentional? I can only speculate as to whether it’s embarrassing for Musk, but my assumption is that he enjoys flaunting his power to cause wreckage without justification rather than being embarrassed by it.
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- andy_ppp 4y agoTwitter has started showing me soft pornography and other teams football fans that I don’t follow in my main feed. Either is a step too far for me, I’ve logged out on all devices (web, I’ve never had the app) and I’m going to see how many days I can go before logging back in. Elon Musk is not a product person he’s building something nobody wants in my opinion and I’m happier without it. API being turned off is just another mark against a terrible product.
- sintaxi 4y agoThe "For You" & "Following" tabs are exactly what I have wanted for ages. Even still, I'm pleased to see that people are exploring other options or logging out altogether.
- Shank 4y ago> The "For You" & "Following" tabs are exactly what I have wanted for ages. Just so we’re all on the same page, these options always existed behind the sparkle menu. The sparkle menu has been removed in favor of tabs but the content has always been there. FYP was the default unless you hit sparkle -> latest tweets.
- andy_ppp 4y agoNo this isn’t the same thing, I am convinced I largely used to only see things from followers and certainly never and big breasted random women. And Chelsea, Man United and Sp*rs fans - no thanks! The sparkle used to be about chronological feed ordering vs hate/AI based tweet ordering.
- andy_ppp 4y agoHere’s proof I was correct, downvoters: https://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/how-to-view-tweets-chronologically-on-twitter/?amp https://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/how-to-view-tweet...
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- usr1106 4y agoThe submission is unclear. I get "The apge is down". I guess the submitter wants to tell us that the page might have been intentionally removed? Or Twitter have too few employees left to keep their stuff maintained? Well, I have come to my conclusion some weeks ago: I don't want to have anything to do with Twitter anymore.
- threeseed 4y agoIt's alluding to the fact that the Developer API seems to have been decommissioned. Maybe it was reactive to reduce load on the platform but more likely it's because it was a deliberate change.
- stingraycharles 4y agoNot sure how a bunch of static pages for developer API docs would reduce load. Compared to the load of actually using the API, it’s minuscule.
- philmcc 4y agoOh. He said "Developer API", not the "Developer API Docs." I believe he meant all of the countless bots and apps and "remindme" etc 3rd party functionality that developers have added on to twitter. At some point I'd be un-surprised to see all of those removed, and replaced as internal for-pay functionality, given the way things are going.
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- mrzool 4y ago> I guess the submitter wants to tell us that the page might have been intentionally removed? Pretty much. At the very least I wanted to spark some sort of conversation about it.
- threeseed 4y agoThere is no reason for Twitter to remove third-party clients unless they want to move ads outside of the main feed. If you allowed the API anyone could build a Twitter minus the ads. This approach would allow them to decommission their existing ad system likely because they have lost too much institutional knowledge about how to run the previous one. Especially given it is heavily intertwined [1] with the fundamental timeline systems. And given that I am constantly recommended random ads e.g. fertilizer and industrial mining machinery my guess is that the ML models powering the ads system have not been retrained since the last major wave of firings. [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593899029531803649 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593899029531803649
- Xylakant 4y agoAs mentioned here [1], the tweets received via the API do not contain the ads, so third-party clients usually don’t display them. Twitter never tried - so a better and probably more effective change would have been to include the sponsored messages in the API stream and have third party clients display them. I doubt that many clients would have actively filtered them, and doing so could have been grounds for revoking their API keys. [1] https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/01/14/information-twitter-slack-confirmation https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/01/14/information-twi...
- asmosoinio 4y agoTo document, it says this right now for me: --- This page is down I scream. You scream. We all scream... for us to fix this page. We’ll stop making jokes and get things up and running soon.
- classified 4y agoIf Musk's goal was to destroy Twitter from the inside, he seems to be succeeding.
- koolba 4y agoAnybody else notice that the “latest” page for search results is gone as well? There used to be a top level group for seeing the most recent tweets matching a search term. It no longer appears for non-logged in users: https://twitter.com/search?q=Twitter%20search%20latest%20gone https://twitter.com/search?q=Twitter%20search%20latest%20gon...
- pavlov 4y agoThe Information reports that the suspension of third-party Twitter clients is intentional, and they haven’t worked out the comms strategy yet. TI has a very good track record on this kind of reporting, so I’m inclined to believe the internal messages they’ve seen are real. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/musks-twitter-intentionally-suspended-tweet-bot-third-party-apps-messages-show https://www.theinformation.com/articles/musks-twitter-intent...
- mrzool 4y agoPaywalled, sadly.
- Xylakant 4y agoDF has a summary https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/01/14/information-twitter-slack-confirmation https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/01/14/information-twi...
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- slantedview 4y agoThere’a no comms because Twitter no longer has a comms department.
- kibwen 4y agoThis doesn't deserve to be downvoted. It is a factual statement.
- smcl 4y agoI don't know whether killing Tweetbot was intentional or deliberate. However I was a pretty heavy user of Twitter - scrolling through my timeline on the tram, in cafes, on the toilet or whenever I had a spare moment. I assumed that the API outage was temporary so I didn't download the "official" app, and figured I'd just wait a day or so for Tweetbot to be fixed. It's now been ~3 days, I don't miss not having Twitter, I don't check it at all. I'm maybe missing a couple of @dril posts, podcast recommendations or funny images I could've shared with friends but that's nothing. So intentional or not, I'm effectively lost as a Twitter user. I'm not claiming to be particularly high value, but I don't imagine my experience is unique. I'm quite far from a fan of Musk but I enjoyed my Twitter experience enough that his meddling was just an amusing side-show until now. It's not a dramatic rage quit, just a sort of accidental "oh I guess I didn't need that" realisation that I didn't plan on having at all. Weird. Interestingly if Twitter had said "We are killing off Tweetbot, you have to use our app" I probably would have just begrudgingly downloaded the Twitter app. But because they didn't say anything, I just waited and went through the "cold turkey" period, where every now and then I'd instinctively tap the Tweetbot icon before thinking "ah yeah it's down, oh well" - before completely losing that habit. What an own goal.
- bfeynman 4y agoI deactivated my twitter, after constantly checking it for updates and the like all the time. I don't miss it at all, don't even have urge to find it again. Think that might speak a lot to the attention economy and how fragile it can be for free apps. Twitter is doomed, the experience is broken, the recommendations were all trash and seeing promoted comments from people who paid to have a checkmark was like the most idiotic move I've seen in an app.
- smcl 4y ago> that might speak a lot to the attention economy and how fragile it can be for free apps Yep, well said - this is a more clearly worded version of the point I was trying to make
- quest88 4y agoHaha same. It has almost been 6 years for me. I recently looked up some people I used to follow and they're tweeting the same damn content. I thought it was kinda sad.
- wnevets 4y agoI would like to thank Elon for helping me to kick of my doom scrolling Twitter addiction. My usage has been dropping perceptibly over the last 3 months as my feed has gotten stale however now that my Twitter client hasn't had any new tweets in the last 3 days I may finally be able to kick the habit for good.
- paintman252 4y agoif your self-control really that bad?
- wnevets 4y agoYes.
- barking_biscuit 4y agoSome people have neurobiology that makes them more susceptible to things of this nature through no fault of their own.
- TheHappyOddish 4y agoSome people also have poor self-control.
- rsynnott 4y agoMusk really is putting sterling work into his application to become the brand ambassador of the Dunning Kruger effect.
- cbeach 4y agoAn incidental data point - I run a number of Twitter bots (nice bots that are helpful), and those are still working. So the API hasn’t been fully turned off. At least, not for all API users.