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TikTok is amazing. You can rip it from my cold dead iPad. :) My pet Pip! https://imgur.com/a/vAFOZHd https://imgur.com/a/vAFOZHd Also, HN is just as much soci

TikTok is amazing. You can rip it from my cold dead iPad. :) My pet Pip! https://imgur.com/a/vAFOZHd https://imgur.com/a/vAFOZHd Also, HN is just as much social media as any other. How often do you glance at your karma the moment the site loads? (Didn’t downvote though.)

lettergram 4y ago
I never comment for the karma, nor do I really look at the karma. You can look at my history lol I think it’ll highlight my sentiment about karma. I’m also not saying this stuff is explicitly bad. I’m simply pointing out I know multiple people with this issue described (hrs and hrs on social media), and provided a path how I’ve seen people successfully overcome it. Regarding Tiktok, it definitely is interesting in a few ways, but it’s not an overly difficult algorithm. It’s data collection and format. I think it’s mostly the UX/UI focus that makes it different from any of the other apps. Imo it’s less information dense to end users and more addiction focused. My favorite tid-bit is that they know when you’re about to drop off usage so they’ll send you highly ranked content in a notification. Basically, this results in doom scrolling right before sleep.
vehemenz 4y ago
"Social media" is a neologism in the context of internet forums. Most of the standard features aren't present. There are no followers, no private messages, no notifications, no phone app. Compared to Reddit or IRC, there are no individual forums/chatrooms that powerful users moderate. If HN is social media, then so is letter writing.
- sillysaurusx 4y ago
  I saw your reply via notification. There’s a nice one called HN Replies. There are followers. They’re just not a number. Powerful users moderate the comments. All of this is mostly invisible, but it’s there.
  - vehemenz 4y ago
    Cool. That's all optional, is it not? I was talking about HN, not optional third-party addons. You're right about "powerful users", but notice that my point was in the context of individual sub-forums (in the context of a downvote, this is a classic strawman)
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lettergram 4y ago

I never comment for the karma, nor do I really look at the karma. You can look at my history lol I think it’ll highlight my sentiment about karma. I’m also not saying this stuff is explicitly bad. I’m simply pointing out I know multiple people with this issue described (hrs and hrs on social media), and provided a path how I’ve seen people successfully overcome it. Regarding Tiktok, it definitely is interesting in a few ways, but it’s not an overly difficult algorithm. It’s data collection and format. I think it’s mostly the UX/UI focus that makes it different from any of the other apps. Imo it’s less information dense to end users and more addiction focused. My favorite tid-bit is that they know when you’re about to drop off usage so they’ll send you highly ranked content in a notification. Basically, this results in doom scrolling right before sleep.

vehemenz 4y ago

"Social media" is a neologism in the context of internet forums. Most of the standard features aren't present. There are no followers, no private messages, no notifications, no phone app. Compared to Reddit or IRC, there are no individual forums/chatrooms that powerful users moderate. If HN is social media, then so is letter writing.

sillysaurusx 4y ago
I saw your reply via notification. There’s a nice one called HN Replies. There are followers. They’re just not a number. Powerful users moderate the comments. All of this is mostly invisible, but it’s there.
- vehemenz 4y ago
  Cool. That's all optional, is it not? I was talking about HN, not optional third-party addons. You're right about "powerful users", but notice that my point was in the context of individual sub-forums (in the context of a downvote, this is a classic strawman)
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