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I've seen this happen to A LOT of people, particularly with TikTok. What's worse is the algorithms are effectively there to (a) keep you watching and (b) manipu
by lettergram 4y ago
I've seen this happen to A LOT of people, particularly with TikTok. What's worse is the algorithms are effectively there to (a) keep you watching and (b) manipulate you (in some cases - i.e. increase addictive tenancies, change mood (see facebook studies on this), etc)
That said, I have seen this cycle both spiral (as in this case) and be broken before. I've also helped a cousin who had this issue.
IMO and this is going to sound harsh, but bare with me -- the problem isn't YouTube, TikTok, etc the issue is you. If you have this "addiction" it's because you're enabled. For instance, I cannot just decide to watch 8 hrs of youtube videos a day, I have to wake up & let the dog out, feed the family, go to work, take the kids to sports classes, spend time with my wife, etc. At the end of the day, I have maybe an hour I could listen to something as I'm doing some maintenance on the house before bed. I'm happy, busy and have purpose. If you have responsibilities you'll be happier -- period. Yes, sometimes it'll suck, it is work after all (I had to clean up my dogs diarrhea the other day -- blah); but the process is rewarding. You can see what you've accomplished, people will care about you and you'll be happier.
Few thoughts on how this can be broken (and how I've seen it done)
1. Uninstall all your social media apps
2. Get an extension on your browser to block social media
3. In an extreme case, change your password to non-sense you don't know and to an email you create on the fly and don't know.
4. Get a pet
5. Make a list of objectives (small to large); make a plan to execute. You can fail, over and over again, but if you work towards them you'll eventually get there.
6. Go outside for a 30-60 min walk every day and force yourself to leave your phone. Cold or hot, doesn't matter. Remember, your ancestors lived outside 24/7, even 100 years ago, there was no AC.
7. Join communities -- could just be people at the gym, a church / w.e., archery club, it doesn't matter, just get social connections
8. Clean your house and room at least once a week and make your bed every day. Discipline is key and once you have a clean house for a while, you'll want to keep it clean.
9. Go to the gym every day if you can. Pick the closest one and just go every day for an hour. Use the machines as they're less likely to hurt you and you don't need any training. Build up to free weights (or if you know how to use them, go for it).
10. Eat healthy -- meat, veg, fruit.
- sillysaurusx 4y agoTikTok is amazing. You can rip it from my cold dead iPad. :) My pet Pip! https://imgur.com/a/vAFOZHd https://imgur.com/a/vAFOZHd Also, HN is just as much social media as any other. How often do you glance at your karma the moment the site loads? (Didn’t downvote though.)
- lettergram 4y agoI never comment for the karma, nor do I really look at the karma. You can look at my history lol I think it’ll highlight my sentiment about karma. I’m also not saying this stuff is explicitly bad. I’m simply pointing out I know multiple people with this issue described (hrs and hrs on social media), and provided a path how I’ve seen people successfully overcome it. Regarding Tiktok, it definitely is interesting in a few ways, but it’s not an overly difficult algorithm. It’s data collection and format. I think it’s mostly the UX/UI focus that makes it different from any of the other apps. Imo it’s less information dense to end users and more addiction focused. My favorite tid-bit is that they know when you’re about to drop off usage so they’ll send you highly ranked content in a notification. Basically, this results in doom scrolling right before sleep.
- vehemenz 4y ago"Social media" is a neologism in the context of internet forums. Most of the standard features aren't present. There are no followers, no private messages, no notifications, no phone app. Compared to Reddit or IRC, there are no individual forums/chatrooms that powerful users moderate. If HN is social media, then so is letter writing.
- sillysaurusx 4y agoI saw your reply via notification. There’s a nice one called HN Replies. There are followers. They’re just not a number. Powerful users moderate the comments. All of this is mostly invisible, but it’s there.
- vehemenz 4y agoCool. That's all optional, is it not? I was talking about HN, not optional third-party addons. You're right about "powerful users", but notice that my point was in the context of individual sub-forums (in the context of a downvote, this is a classic strawman)
- JimtheCoder 4y agoSo basically, get a life? I agree.