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COVID-19 is no joke. I know people want to move on with their lives, but people should stick to N95/KN-95/KF-94/FFP2/FFP3 masks for the time being unless we wan

COVID-19 is no joke. I know people want to move on with their lives, but people should stick to N95/KN-95/KF-94/FFP2/FFP3 masks for the time being unless we want to create a massive health care crisis and ruin the global economy as the if people get reinfected every few months, this would be imminent!

wkat4242 4y ago
Where I live people do get reinfected every few months because masks are gone, and this is not a major problem. Most of the long COVID cases stem from the first and second waves here.
- nikolay 4y ago
  We are talking long-term harm - it's too early to say people are just fine.
  - nradov 4y ago
    You should probably hide under your bed wearing a triple mask. Just in case.
    - nikolay 4y ago
      He who laughs last, laughs best. Keep laughing!
      - dieselgate 4y ago
        Just got home and on the drive saw a billboard that said “he who laughs last didn’t get the joke” Keep laughing regardless!
        nikolay 4y ago
        COVID-19 is no joke.
threadweaver34 4y ago
> people should stick to N95/KN-95/KF-94/FFP2/FFP3 masks for the time being Now that we have a vaccine and a bivalent booster, realize that you're suggesting masking for at least another 5 years. You said this, but it also has to be N95 at this point with how contagious it is. > people get reinfected every few months The realistic estimates are more like every year.
- graeme 4y ago
  I use an N95 myself, but have family who just use surgical but don’t hang out with sick people and get cautious in places with lots of people and they never got it It’s very very contagious and you have higher odds with worse measures but it also isn’t magic.
  - nikolay 4y ago
    How do you know who's sick when 30-40% of people are asymptomatic? Also, the virus lingers in the air of closed spaces of hours.
- nikolay 4y ago
  The boosters do almost nothing about XBB.1.5 and the upcoming strains - this is evolution at play! You can't use the same strategy we've used for the flu - this virus mutates much faster as it infects a lot more people.
  - threadweaver34 4y ago
    My point was that we've reached the mid-term status quo. If you're still wearing a mask, you're going to be wearing it for a while.
    - nikolay 4y ago
      I am fully aware of it and well used to it already - I've gone through hundreds of 3M and Moldex N95s already, I can properly put on and take off a face mask with a single hand in a second. I'm sure the first people who put on underwear were also ridiculed and others thought of them as crazies, but from modern day's perspective, they were the clever bunch. Face masks might be a novelty in the Western Hemisphere, but in the more populated other half of our planet, people have been wearing masks as less inconvenient than getting sick. People should learn about Hayflick limit before saying they can keep surviving a reinfection every couple of months - especially one, which exploits such a common receptor as ACE2!
galoisscobi 4y ago
Strongly agree. It’s been frustrating to deal with this at work. I’m at a FAANG, and we’re required to come in 3 days a week. Coworkers came in visibly sick coughing away without wearing a mask. I wrote to people support and they say they can’t do anything about it, just recommend that I wear a mask and that’s about it.
- nikolay 4y ago
  Millions if not billions get sick every year, because sick people don't want to stay home. This irresponsible behavior should be regulated somehow otherwise people won't change!
  - ETH_start 4y ago
    Or people can just acquire immunity through exposure.
    - nikolay 4y ago
      You can't acquire meaningful immunity against such a highly contagious and rapidly mutating RNA virus! After measures were removed and people stopped wearing face masks, the phylogenic tree went bonkers [0]! [0]: https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global/6m https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global/6m
      - ETH_start 4y ago
        Yes you can, that's why elderly people who get influenza strains that they were exposed to as children are much less likely to succumb to it than those who didn't. Lack of full lasting immunity doesn't mean zero immunity. You can't avoid exposure to a highly contagious respiratory virus. You can't spend the rest of your life masked. And evolution would have make us capable of adapting to being able to handle such viruses. It's not like COVID-19 would be the end of the human race without indefinite masking/social-distancing. Viruses like COVID-19 have emerged innumerable times in the past. Without an innate ability to acquire some level of immunity to such viruses, we wouldn't exist. COVID-19 was only different in that in 2019, at risk demographics like the elderly population, had no prior exposure to it.
amatecha 4y ago
Yup, I have avoided COVID this whole time by simply wearing KN95. It's really not that hard. Actually, the hardest part is dealing with ridicule and condescension from people who think I'm being "paranoid" or overly careful. Maybe if everyone took that level of precaution, we wouldn't be where we are. I set my policy when a friend's mother died quickly from COVID.. People straight up dying is pretty much a "yup I'm wearing a mask" trigger for me. The constantly-trickling-out research on COVID's effects have repeatedly validated my stance. Not getting COVID despite being in public and in crowds and near people who are just coughing into the air (maskless of course) has also validated my stance.
- nikolay 4y ago
  Two of my cousins died from COVID-19, and one of my best friends - first her daughter died, and then she got it from her grandson. I don't recall a single person dying from flu - and I know thousands! That was my point as well - if everybody wore the proper mask for a month around the globe, this would have been over with long ago! But, no, people feel entitled to make this stay here and continue to kill millions each year!

wkat4242 4y ago

Where I live people do get reinfected every few months because masks are gone, and this is not a major problem. Most of the long COVID cases stem from the first and second waves here.

nikolay 4y ago
We are talking long-term harm - it's too early to say people are just fine.
- nradov 4y ago
  You should probably hide under your bed wearing a triple mask. Just in case.
  - nikolay 4y ago
    He who laughs last, laughs best. Keep laughing!
    - dieselgate 4y ago
      Just got home and on the drive saw a billboard that said “he who laughs last didn’t get the joke” Keep laughing regardless!
      - nikolay 4y ago
        COVID-19 is no joke.

threadweaver34 4y ago

> people should stick to N95/KN-95/KF-94/FFP2/FFP3 masks for the time being Now that we have a vaccine and a bivalent booster, realize that you're suggesting masking for at least another 5 years. You said this, but it also has to be N95 at this point with how contagious it is. > people get reinfected every few months The realistic estimates are more like every year.

graeme 4y ago
I use an N95 myself, but have family who just use surgical but don’t hang out with sick people and get cautious in places with lots of people and they never got it It’s very very contagious and you have higher odds with worse measures but it also isn’t magic.
- nikolay 4y ago
  How do you know who's sick when 30-40% of people are asymptomatic? Also, the virus lingers in the air of closed spaces of hours.
nikolay 4y ago
The boosters do almost nothing about XBB.1.5 and the upcoming strains - this is evolution at play! You can't use the same strategy we've used for the flu - this virus mutates much faster as it infects a lot more people.
- threadweaver34 4y ago
  My point was that we've reached the mid-term status quo. If you're still wearing a mask, you're going to be wearing it for a while.
  - nikolay 4y ago
    I am fully aware of it and well used to it already - I've gone through hundreds of 3M and Moldex N95s already, I can properly put on and take off a face mask with a single hand in a second. I'm sure the first people who put on underwear were also ridiculed and others thought of them as crazies, but from modern day's perspective, they were the clever bunch. Face masks might be a novelty in the Western Hemisphere, but in the more populated other half of our planet, people have been wearing masks as less inconvenient than getting sick. People should learn about Hayflick limit before saying they can keep surviving a reinfection every couple of months - especially one, which exploits such a common receptor as ACE2!

galoisscobi 4y ago

Strongly agree. It’s been frustrating to deal with this at work. I’m at a FAANG, and we’re required to come in 3 days a week. Coworkers came in visibly sick coughing away without wearing a mask. I wrote to people support and they say they can’t do anything about it, just recommend that I wear a mask and that’s about it.

nikolay 4y ago
Millions if not billions get sick every year, because sick people don't want to stay home. This irresponsible behavior should be regulated somehow otherwise people won't change!
- ETH_start 4y ago
  Or people can just acquire immunity through exposure.
  - nikolay 4y ago
    You can't acquire meaningful immunity against such a highly contagious and rapidly mutating RNA virus! After measures were removed and people stopped wearing face masks, the phylogenic tree went bonkers [0]! [0]: https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global/6m https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global/6m
    - ETH_start 4y ago
      Yes you can, that's why elderly people who get influenza strains that they were exposed to as children are much less likely to succumb to it than those who didn't. Lack of full lasting immunity doesn't mean zero immunity. You can't avoid exposure to a highly contagious respiratory virus. You can't spend the rest of your life masked. And evolution would have make us capable of adapting to being able to handle such viruses. It's not like COVID-19 would be the end of the human race without indefinite masking/social-distancing. Viruses like COVID-19 have emerged innumerable times in the past. Without an innate ability to acquire some level of immunity to such viruses, we wouldn't exist. COVID-19 was only different in that in 2019, at risk demographics like the elderly population, had no prior exposure to it.

amatecha 4y ago

Yup, I have avoided COVID this whole time by simply wearing KN95. It's really not that hard. Actually, the hardest part is dealing with ridicule and condescension from people who think I'm being "paranoid" or overly careful. Maybe if everyone took that level of precaution, we wouldn't be where we are. I set my policy when a friend's mother died quickly from COVID.. People straight up dying is pretty much a "yup I'm wearing a mask" trigger for me. The constantly-trickling-out research on COVID's effects have repeatedly validated my stance. Not getting COVID despite being in public and in crowds and near people who are just coughing into the air (maskless of course) has also validated my stance.

nikolay 4y ago
Two of my cousins died from COVID-19, and one of my best friends - first her daughter died, and then she got it from her grandson. I don't recall a single person dying from flu - and I know thousands! That was my point as well - if everybody wore the proper mask for a month around the globe, this would have been over with long ago! But, no, people feel entitled to make this stay here and continue to kill millions each year!