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I’m with you right up to “if agile is done well”. It’s just a buzzword for practices that people would be doing better otherwise without all the bureaucracy. P
by highwaylights 4y ago
I’m with you right up to “if agile is done well”.
It’s just a buzzword for practices that people would be doing better otherwise without all the bureaucracy. Pretty sure one of the original authors of the manifesto declared it dead too, but I’m not going to google it because honestly the agile manifesto is not a religious text to me and I think the whole industry grew out of a single fairly common sense idea that got utterly co-opted by snake oil salesmen.
Like DevOps.
- mindcrime 4y agoIt's a fair point. The whole DevOps thing is so ludicrous. I've seen companies that don't just have a "DevOps team" (which is absurd in and of itself) but multiple DevOps Teams, and I'm pretty sure there are some DevOps Teams that have embedded DevOps Teams that in turn have more embedded DevOps Teams. And all of these people are completely gated off from interacting with the people actually building applications by a byzantine process involving ServiceNow tickets, MS Teams messages, eldritch incantations to Elder gods, ritual sacrifices, and the phrase "The goat doesn't need to be very big, but it does need to be alive."
- Aeolun 4y agoI think you are underestimating the DevOps teams. Cthulhu is a lot easier to please.
- garethrowlands 4y agoDevOps merges Dev and Ops. It is not an extra team.
- mindcrime 4y agoSure, you and I know that. But try telling that to all of these companies out here standing up a "devops team" left and right!