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And mind-boggling you criticize and demonize technology on a forum about technology all while not only being on the internet but also using electricity, a compu

And mind-boggling you criticize and demonize technology on a forum about technology all while not only being on the internet but also using electricity, a computer, and certainty surrounded by gadgets and other amenities of modern life. Nature is SHIT, that is why people created technology. There is nothing preventing you from going to the middle of nowhere and reject modernity, no one is forcing you, but you are that because you wanted and liked it. You talk people should have an "instinctual revulsion" towards technology, but not even you yourself has this reaction towards technology because it is a stupid idea that not even luddites like you commit to it. If anything the technology we have nowadays is not even 0,01% of what we should have. We should have the technology to make any movie anyone ever wanted to see in a blink of an eye, all done in the best quality ever imagined. We should have the power to build a Dyson Sphere around the sun to harness its energy. We should be able to construct fully immersive virtual reality, like San Junipero from the Black Mirror's episode, we should have the power extend human life indefinitely.

Teever 4y ago
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aktenlage 4y ago
Why are you so hostile? What sense does it make, to attack him because he does not already have, what he is wishing for? Nature is not "SHIT", for whatever that should mean. Neither the blanket statement "Technology is evil" nor "Nature is shit" make sense. We are humans. We need nature - it is what we evolved to and our technology is not able to replace it without loss. Specific technology is great to overcome existential limitations, but most technology is not. Sure, there is great technology out there that improves our lives. On the other hand, there is so much technology that makes our lives worse (because of how it is used: e.g., by being of advantage to few people, while being bad for everyone else or by helping individuals now but having severe effects lateron), it can hardly be ignored, that a better process for selection or containment of technology would be necessary to improve everybodies life. But mankind is bad at forgoing. Current technology seems to be great at generating convenience and excitement. And the examples you mention (movies, infinite energy, VR and eternal life) feel like the wishes for more excitement of a teenager (and this is not meant condescending), but life is so much more than excitement. Excitement is just the cherry on top. I'd rather see more tech that is wholesome - but that area seems to be left to nature.
vouaobrasil 4y ago
> And mind-boggling you criticize and demonize technology on a forum about technology all while not only being on the internet but also using electricity, a computer, and certainty surrounded by gadgets and other amenities of modern life. I don't demonize all technology. There must be an optimum somewhere, and I would like to engage in open discourse in order to understand where that optimum is. I believe advanced AI takes us away from the optimum. Extending human life indefinitely is a terrible idea. We have a natural lifespan and we need to function within it. We should not proceed towards being saturated in technology as that will surely destroy the natural life on this planet.

Teever 4y ago

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aktenlage 4y ago

Why are you so hostile? What sense does it make, to attack him because he does not already have, what he is wishing for? Nature is not "SHIT", for whatever that should mean. Neither the blanket statement "Technology is evil" nor "Nature is shit" make sense. We are humans. We need nature - it is what we evolved to and our technology is not able to replace it without loss. Specific technology is great to overcome existential limitations, but most technology is not. Sure, there is great technology out there that improves our lives. On the other hand, there is so much technology that makes our lives worse (because of how it is used: e.g., by being of advantage to few people, while being bad for everyone else or by helping individuals now but having severe effects lateron), it can hardly be ignored, that a better process for selection or containment of technology would be necessary to improve everybodies life. But mankind is bad at forgoing. Current technology seems to be great at generating convenience and excitement. And the examples you mention (movies, infinite energy, VR and eternal life) feel like the wishes for more excitement of a teenager (and this is not meant condescending), but life is so much more than excitement. Excitement is just the cherry on top. I'd rather see more tech that is wholesome - but that area seems to be left to nature.

vouaobrasil 4y ago

> And mind-boggling you criticize and demonize technology on a forum about technology all while not only being on the internet but also using electricity, a computer, and certainty surrounded by gadgets and other amenities of modern life. I don't demonize all technology. There must be an optimum somewhere, and I would like to engage in open discourse in order to understand where that optimum is. I believe advanced AI takes us away from the optimum. Extending human life indefinitely is a terrible idea. We have a natural lifespan and we need to function within it. We should not proceed towards being saturated in technology as that will surely destroy the natural life on this planet.