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Hacker News on Kristall: https://imgur.com/a/lhq8iCw https://imgur.com/a/lhq8iCw http, https are disabled by default, they need to be enabled in File/Settings/
by bambax 4y ago
Hacker News on Kristall: https://imgur.com/a/lhq8iCw https://imgur.com/a/lhq8iCw
http, https are disabled by default, they need to be enabled in File/Settings/Generic.
I was hoping it would be a single executable but (on Windows) it's 56 files: 1 exe, 33 dedicated dlls, 22 translation files.
Google Search does not work, it's impossible to get past the cookie consent page: https://imgur.com/a/daGMASS https://imgur.com/a/daGMASS (Same thing happens if one tries to put the search words in the url.)
DuckDuckGo doesn't display a search box either, just links about itself: https://imgur.com/a/UMLKiOv https://imgur.com/a/UMLKiOv
No search box on Bing either; it's possible to access a page like https://www.bing.com/search?q=hacker+news https://www.bing.com/search?q=hacker+news for example, but the SERP is wrong and says "no results" whatever the words searched : https://imgur.com/a/J2Y4CU6 https://imgur.com/a/J2Y4CU6
The modern web is hard to use with simple tools.
- jeroenhd 4y agoI think (extremely) rudementary CSS support would fix many of these cases. You don't need to support more than the basic layout constraints, but you need something so sites like DDG's search page without Javascript can work. I believe Google will still work on very old browsers through something like user agent sniffing, maybe setting the UA to IE5 will trick it into rendering HTML that might actually work (though the search results will probably still be useless)
- culi 4y agoOr even just supporting user stylesheets like the original browsers intended Nowadays you have to install an extension just to get this promised feature
- danuker 4y agoDoes https://search.marginalia.nu/ https://search.marginalia.nu/ work?
- marginalia_nu 4y agoI actually used to serve marginalia search it over gemini, although that feature has fallen into disrepair. But it's designed to work without CSS and scripts, I test it with w3m and lynx, so I hope kristall can deal with it too.
- bambax 4y agoNo, but I think I must be doing something wrong, because no form or input field of any kind is ever displayed on any website. I tried the simplest form imaginable on localhost and it didn't work either. Edit: as ketzu points out (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34351753 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34351753), Kristall simply doesn't render form elements. Which makes it pretty useless ATM IMHO.
- mik1998 4y agoYou can probably use lite.duckduckgo.com.
- Aeolun 4y agoHow can the search boxes disappear? Aren’t they just plain HTML?
- ketzu 4y agoThey don't render input elements (at least that is my understanding of the code): https://github.com/MasterQ32/kristall/blob/6b39f24484bb0796f3f383401f95904f85b74d7b/src/renderers/htmlrenderer.cpp#L157 https://github.com/MasterQ32/kristall/blob/6b39f24484bb0796f... The GitHub notes that they only support a reduced set of HTML, but not which set it is. My guess is they do not support any interactivity related elements.
- bambax 4y agoAh thanks, that explains it! So it makes for quite a useless browser until and if they do.
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- arnorhs 4y agoyeah, for me the kristall website also didnt work in kristall.. not sure if i'm doing something wrong https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtezzcsm2qcat8a/Screenshot%202023-01-12%20at%2012.16.55.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtezzcsm2qcat8a/Screenshot%202023-...
- SlackingOff123 4y agoIt seems to work a lot better on Linux. Screenshots of both the front page of HN and of this topic: https://imgur.com/a/Armz49a https://imgur.com/a/Armz49a