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The Alien Grave of Aurora, Texas

85 points by Amorymeltzer 4y ago

ConceitedCode 4y ago
Wikipedia page for the incident - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Texas,_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Texas,_UFO_incident
pram 4y ago
There are/were actually a lot of UFO “landing pads” around Texas. There was one in my hometown that was gossiped about often. Pretty wacky forgotten history: https://caterpickles.com/2017/10/10/official-ufo-landing-pads/ https://caterpickles.com/2017/10/10/official-ufo-landing-pad...
smallmouth 4y ago
Interesting story. As someone who is interested in this, uh, subject, it is astonishing the number of "Air Ship" sightings that were reported in the latter quarter of the 1800's. Sightings on the ground and in the sky of Air Ships that moved very fast, even vertically and against the wind and had powerful search lights that turned night into day so to speak. Anyway, there is much written about this with some great research done by John Keel.
- seanw444 4y ago
  There are an awful lot of UFO/UAP sightings by the Navy in the last two decades. And they largely ignore them. There's a consistently-reported "sphere-inlayed transparent/translucent stationary airborn cube" aircraft that the Navy gets hundreds of reports for by its pilots. And the number has been growing year-over-year. Only a few have been seen with the human eye. The majority are seen via instruments. They know they're the same type of aircraft because their flight styles (or rather, the lack thereof) are identical to the ones seen in person. They were largely undetected until the Navy rolled out some more advanced sensors/instruments relatively recently, and now they see "flocks" of them flying in formation, or sometimes individuals stationary and unaffected by wind patterns. Is it aliens? Birds? Foreign drones? Experimental drones from higher echelons of our own government? Nobody knows. That's why it's actually interesting. Because even the Navy can't say it has an answer. But almost nobody seems to be interested in finding out, for some reason, despite them routinely flying in our restricted airspace without permission.
  - zzzeek 4y ago
    What kind of instrument can detect that an object is translucent / transparent that is not in fact a camera, and therefore has photographs ?
    - seanw444 4y ago
      Radar. And I didn't mean to say that the instruments can detect the translucence. I meant that the ones that were seen in person were translucent, and have similar behaviour on radar to the ones that were seen in person, thus it can be assumed that they are likely the same class of objects. Another interesting detail that I forgot to point out: the one that was recorded by a Navy fighter's FLIR (public record, you can find it easily) had virtually no heat coming off of it, while simultaneously being unaffected by the wind and gravity. Which is reason enough for raising eyebrows on its own. Again, I'm not immediately jumping to aliens or anything. I just want it explained adequately, because it seems to defy current capabilities.
  - LarryMullins 4y ago
    Maybe it's all a prank/hoax perpetrated by pilots and tolerated by Navy command, who perhaps see some value in muddying the waters about what's real or isn't real, sowing doubt about the technology America might have, confuse America's rivals. I've noticed that the people who think the alleged Navy sightings are genuine seem to generally believe that Navy pilots are beyond reproach, all work no play, never perpetrate hoaxes, never misread their instruments, never get deceived by their own senses, etc etc. From listening to them, you'd get the impression that the testimony of Navy pilots is the firmest sort of scientific evidence. Well I've met a small number of Naval aviators, and I can tell you that although they were professionals, they were also human. Punking the public for shits and giggles is a real possibility with them.
    - seanw444 4y ago
      Absolutely possible. I'm not discounting that either. I just want a decently-funded investigation and explanation for all of it. Just to know for sure. The "gimbal" craft's recording is still unexplained, for example, and from what it appears, it defies our understanding of physics.
- thedorkknight 4y ago
  Skeptoid did an article on this story. It appeared with a bunch of other stories in that newspaper that were pretty clearly jokes. >In one, an "aerial monster" landed in a field, piloted by men from New York. In another, the crew consisted of lost Jews from the ten tribes of Israel who told a judge they'd come from the North Pole. https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241 https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241
twobitshifter 4y ago
If there was anything to this they’d surely have exhumed the remains, Christian burial notwithstanding.
- ocdtrekkie 4y ago
  That's my impression too. If anyone legitimately believed alien remains (or parts of an alien spacecraft) was six feet under that rock, the government would've gotten it either by not caring what people in the area thought about it, or literally tunneling under the earth and taking it covertly.
  - codetrotter 4y ago
    Mulder and Scully need to look into this.
  - RajT88 4y ago
    > If anyone legitimately believed alien remains (or parts of an alien spacecraft) was six feet under that rock It is quite possible that nobody really buys into it. Or - another theory - the powers that be who would have to authorize it understand that their tourist trap angle is over if it is just a normal dead body. Therefore, it's not worth the risk to discover the truth.
    - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
      The US government does not care if it has podunk authorization to exhume a body, nor does it care if it's a good tourist trap. Bear in mind the study of alien technology presumably results in complete military and technological superiority on this planet. Either there never was an alien body there, or the US government has already taken it. There is definitely not alien remains under that rock right now.
      - RajT88 4y ago
        What I'm getting at is: - US Gov't doesn't think there's an alien there. - Local gov doesn't want to risk the loss of tourism. The US government, publicly at least, has not shown a great deal of interest in investigating UFO reports.
vkaku 4y ago
Just when you think there's a real possibility of exhumation and further analysis there's known disinformation circulating. What I would really like to see is X Ray photography.
- RajT88 4y ago
  What's the disinfo?
  - vkaku 4y ago
    That they can't exhume the remains - random stuff like that on the Wikipedia article. If there is an actual burial of an alien, a government agency will likely cover it up.
retrocryptid 4y ago
The offspring and I stopped by our family cemetery plot last summer there in Aurora. He had never heard the story about how my great-grandmother, when living in Boyd, had met a peculiar man from out of town. The family story is that he was the pilot of the craft and this is what explains my mothers' family's odd behaviour. Or maybe they just lived in Wise county a little too long.
goodroot 4y ago
I'm super pumped they gave the pilot a proper and respectful burial. Way to make a solid impression, Texas.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Or it could have been insulting. What if the alien wasn't a christian and the poor thing is now doomed in whatever purgatory its religion dooms it to until it gets the proper rites performed? Such a small minded assumption to be made that a foreigner would practice the same rites as the locals.
  - _nalply 4y ago
    As a Buddhist I find it respectful. Giving someone who you don't know the last rites anyway. Especially if it is not even the same species as you.
    - dylan604 4y ago
      I can appreciate that "you do what you know" aspect, so can also see it as respectful too. However, I'm not the one that matters in these cases as I'm not a deity at the head of a religion. Some of these deities get really upset when you don't follow their teachings. Even if you've never heard of them so how could you know. Some deities tell their followers to slaughter all living humans so they can have their land. Some say to kill the non-believers. Some say to do specific things with their remains otherwise damnation for thee. Let's just say, I would not like to be the one making that decision for fear of sending someone down an eternal path that they might not have expected
codetrotter 4y ago
Article screenshot text: > A Windmill Demolishes It. > Aurora, Wise Co., Tex., April 17.–(To The News.)–About 6 o'clock this morning the early risers of Aurora were astonished at the sudden appearance of the airship which has been sailing through the country. > It was traveling due north, and much nearer the earth than ever before. Evidently some of the machinery was out of order, for it was making a speed of only ten or twelve miles an hour and gradually settling toward the earth. It sailed direct- ly over the public square, and when it reached the north part of town collided with the tower of Judge Proctor's windmill and went to pieces with a terrific explosion, scattering debris over several acres of ground, wrecking the windmill and water tank and destroying the judge's flower garden. > The pilot of the ship is supposed to have been the only one on board, and while his remains are badly disfigured, enough of the original has been picked up to show that he was not an inhabitant of this world. > Mr. T. J. Weems, the United States signal service officer at this place and an authority on astronomy, gives it as his opinion that he was a native of the planet Mars. > Papers found on his person–evidently the record of his travels–are written in some unknown hieroglyphics, and can not be deciphered. > The ship was too badly wrecked to form any conclusion as to lis construction or motive power. It was built of an unknown metal, resembling somewhat a mixture of aluminum and silver, and it must have weighed several tons. > The town is full of people to-day who are viewing the wreck and gathering specimens of the strange metal from the debris. The pilot's funeral will take place at noon to-morrow. > S. E. HAYDON.
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  The premise of an alien traveling all the way across the galaxy, only to crash into a windmill, is very amusing. Maybe it was a teenage alien joyriding his parental unit's spaceship.
  - smallmouth 4y ago
    I don't think whomever is in control of these objects are aliens from outer space either. And I don't think they make mistakes of crashing into windmills as well. But "they" are here for whatever reason.
  - 4y ago
nothingforsale 4y ago
If you want a macabre afternoon, search Google Images for "immolated body". They all look quite alien.
manv1 4y ago
It's amazing that the deep state was able to embed someone (Etta Peagues) into the narrative that long ago. They've been around for a long time!
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nprateem 4y ago
I mean whatever you think on the subject you must admit the old school art is odd https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/repubs/j_geomancy/v2n2/pages/screeton_de_gelder.html https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/repubs/j_geoman...
pavlov 4y ago
1897 is when H. G. Wells’s “The War of the Worlds” was published in serialized form on both sides of the Atlantic. UFOs and Martians were very much in the Zeitgeist when this alleged Texas incident occurred.
valarauko 4y ago
Skeptoid episode about this incident: https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241 https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241
- thedorkknight 4y ago
  Yeah I was gonna say, this story sounded familiar. Props to Brian Dunning on this one for apparently being one of the few to actually look at the context of the publishing of this story. It appeared with a bunch of other stories in that newspaper that were pretty clearly jokes. >In one, an "aerial monster" landed in a field, piloted by men from New York. In another, the crew consisted of lost Jews from the ten tribes of Israel who told a judge they'd come from the North Pole.
shookness 4y ago
"Author attempts to jump-start town with fictional UFO story" https://www.tshaonline.org/texas-day-by-day/entry/118 https://www.tshaonline.org/texas-day-by-day/entry/118 This seems like a likely explanation of the story, but I admit I want to believe...
steponlego 4y ago
Fascinating stuff, and yet more evidence that aliens are in fact simply Biblical demons.

85 points by Amorymeltzer 4y ago

Wikipedia page for the incident - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Texas,_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Texas,_UFO_incident

pram 4y ago

There are/were actually a lot of UFO “landing pads” around Texas. There was one in my hometown that was gossiped about often. Pretty wacky forgotten history: https://caterpickles.com/2017/10/10/official-ufo-landing-pads/ https://caterpickles.com/2017/10/10/official-ufo-landing-pad...

smallmouth 4y ago

Interesting story. As someone who is interested in this, uh, subject, it is astonishing the number of "Air Ship" sightings that were reported in the latter quarter of the 1800's. Sightings on the ground and in the sky of Air Ships that moved very fast, even vertically and against the wind and had powerful search lights that turned night into day so to speak. Anyway, there is much written about this with some great research done by John Keel.

seanw444 4y ago
There are an awful lot of UFO/UAP sightings by the Navy in the last two decades. And they largely ignore them. There's a consistently-reported "sphere-inlayed transparent/translucent stationary airborn cube" aircraft that the Navy gets hundreds of reports for by its pilots. And the number has been growing year-over-year. Only a few have been seen with the human eye. The majority are seen via instruments. They know they're the same type of aircraft because their flight styles (or rather, the lack thereof) are identical to the ones seen in person. They were largely undetected until the Navy rolled out some more advanced sensors/instruments relatively recently, and now they see "flocks" of them flying in formation, or sometimes individuals stationary and unaffected by wind patterns. Is it aliens? Birds? Foreign drones? Experimental drones from higher echelons of our own government? Nobody knows. That's why it's actually interesting. Because even the Navy can't say it has an answer. But almost nobody seems to be interested in finding out, for some reason, despite them routinely flying in our restricted airspace without permission.
- zzzeek 4y ago
  What kind of instrument can detect that an object is translucent / transparent that is not in fact a camera, and therefore has photographs ?
  - seanw444 4y ago
    Radar. And I didn't mean to say that the instruments can detect the translucence. I meant that the ones that were seen in person were translucent, and have similar behaviour on radar to the ones that were seen in person, thus it can be assumed that they are likely the same class of objects. Another interesting detail that I forgot to point out: the one that was recorded by a Navy fighter's FLIR (public record, you can find it easily) had virtually no heat coming off of it, while simultaneously being unaffected by the wind and gravity. Which is reason enough for raising eyebrows on its own. Again, I'm not immediately jumping to aliens or anything. I just want it explained adequately, because it seems to defy current capabilities.
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  Maybe it's all a prank/hoax perpetrated by pilots and tolerated by Navy command, who perhaps see some value in muddying the waters about what's real or isn't real, sowing doubt about the technology America might have, confuse America's rivals. I've noticed that the people who think the alleged Navy sightings are genuine seem to generally believe that Navy pilots are beyond reproach, all work no play, never perpetrate hoaxes, never misread their instruments, never get deceived by their own senses, etc etc. From listening to them, you'd get the impression that the testimony of Navy pilots is the firmest sort of scientific evidence. Well I've met a small number of Naval aviators, and I can tell you that although they were professionals, they were also human. Punking the public for shits and giggles is a real possibility with them.
  - seanw444 4y ago
    Absolutely possible. I'm not discounting that either. I just want a decently-funded investigation and explanation for all of it. Just to know for sure. The "gimbal" craft's recording is still unexplained, for example, and from what it appears, it defies our understanding of physics.
thedorkknight 4y ago
Skeptoid did an article on this story. It appeared with a bunch of other stories in that newspaper that were pretty clearly jokes. >In one, an "aerial monster" landed in a field, piloted by men from New York. In another, the crew consisted of lost Jews from the ten tribes of Israel who told a judge they'd come from the North Pole. https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241 https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241

twobitshifter 4y ago

If there was anything to this they’d surely have exhumed the remains, Christian burial notwithstanding.

ocdtrekkie 4y ago
That's my impression too. If anyone legitimately believed alien remains (or parts of an alien spacecraft) was six feet under that rock, the government would've gotten it either by not caring what people in the area thought about it, or literally tunneling under the earth and taking it covertly.
- codetrotter 4y ago
  Mulder and Scully need to look into this.
- RajT88 4y ago
  > If anyone legitimately believed alien remains (or parts of an alien spacecraft) was six feet under that rock It is quite possible that nobody really buys into it. Or - another theory - the powers that be who would have to authorize it understand that their tourist trap angle is over if it is just a normal dead body. Therefore, it's not worth the risk to discover the truth.
  - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
    The US government does not care if it has podunk authorization to exhume a body, nor does it care if it's a good tourist trap. Bear in mind the study of alien technology presumably results in complete military and technological superiority on this planet. Either there never was an alien body there, or the US government has already taken it. There is definitely not alien remains under that rock right now.
    - RajT88 4y ago
      What I'm getting at is: - US Gov't doesn't think there's an alien there. - Local gov doesn't want to risk the loss of tourism. The US government, publicly at least, has not shown a great deal of interest in investigating UFO reports.

vkaku 4y ago

Just when you think there's a real possibility of exhumation and further analysis there's known disinformation circulating. What I would really like to see is X Ray photography.

RajT88 4y ago
What's the disinfo?
- vkaku 4y ago
  That they can't exhume the remains - random stuff like that on the Wikipedia article. If there is an actual burial of an alien, a government agency will likely cover it up.

retrocryptid 4y ago

The offspring and I stopped by our family cemetery plot last summer there in Aurora. He had never heard the story about how my great-grandmother, when living in Boyd, had met a peculiar man from out of town. The family story is that he was the pilot of the craft and this is what explains my mothers' family's odd behaviour. Or maybe they just lived in Wise county a little too long.

goodroot 4y ago

I'm super pumped they gave the pilot a proper and respectful burial. Way to make a solid impression, Texas.

dylan604 4y ago
Or it could have been insulting. What if the alien wasn't a christian and the poor thing is now doomed in whatever purgatory its religion dooms it to until it gets the proper rites performed? Such a small minded assumption to be made that a foreigner would practice the same rites as the locals.
- _nalply 4y ago
  As a Buddhist I find it respectful. Giving someone who you don't know the last rites anyway. Especially if it is not even the same species as you.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    I can appreciate that "you do what you know" aspect, so can also see it as respectful too. However, I'm not the one that matters in these cases as I'm not a deity at the head of a religion. Some of these deities get really upset when you don't follow their teachings. Even if you've never heard of them so how could you know. Some deities tell their followers to slaughter all living humans so they can have their land. Some say to kill the non-believers. Some say to do specific things with their remains otherwise damnation for thee. Let's just say, I would not like to be the one making that decision for fear of sending someone down an eternal path that they might not have expected

codetrotter 4y ago

Article screenshot text: > A Windmill Demolishes It. > Aurora, Wise Co., Tex., April 17.–(To The News.)–About 6 o'clock this morning the early risers of Aurora were astonished at the sudden appearance of the airship which has been sailing through the country. > It was traveling due north, and much nearer the earth than ever before. Evidently some of the machinery was out of order, for it was making a speed of only ten or twelve miles an hour and gradually settling toward the earth. It sailed direct- ly over the public square, and when it reached the north part of town collided with the tower of Judge Proctor's windmill and went to pieces with a terrific explosion, scattering debris over several acres of ground, wrecking the windmill and water tank and destroying the judge's flower garden. > The pilot of the ship is supposed to have been the only one on board, and while his remains are badly disfigured, enough of the original has been picked up to show that he was not an inhabitant of this world. > Mr. T. J. Weems, the United States signal service officer at this place and an authority on astronomy, gives it as his opinion that he was a native of the planet Mars. > Papers found on his person–evidently the record of his travels–are written in some unknown hieroglyphics, and can not be deciphered. > The ship was too badly wrecked to form any conclusion as to lis construction or motive power. It was built of an unknown metal, resembling somewhat a mixture of aluminum and silver, and it must have weighed several tons. > The town is full of people to-day who are viewing the wreck and gathering specimens of the strange metal from the debris. The pilot's funeral will take place at noon to-morrow. > S. E. HAYDON.

LarryMullins 4y ago
The premise of an alien traveling all the way across the galaxy, only to crash into a windmill, is very amusing. Maybe it was a teenage alien joyriding his parental unit's spaceship.
- smallmouth 4y ago
  I don't think whomever is in control of these objects are aliens from outer space either. And I don't think they make mistakes of crashing into windmills as well. But "they" are here for whatever reason.
- 4y ago

nothingforsale 4y ago

If you want a macabre afternoon, search Google Images for "immolated body". They all look quite alien.

manv1 4y ago

It's amazing that the deep state was able to embed someone (Etta Peagues) into the narrative that long ago. They've been around for a long time!

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nprateem 4y ago

I mean whatever you think on the subject you must admit the old school art is odd https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/repubs/j_geomancy/v2n2/pages/screeton_de_gelder.html https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/repubs/j_geoman...

pavlov 4y ago

1897 is when H. G. Wells’s “The War of the Worlds” was published in serialized form on both sides of the Atlantic. UFOs and Martians were very much in the Zeitgeist when this alleged Texas incident occurred.

valarauko 4y ago

Skeptoid episode about this incident: https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241 https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241

thedorkknight 4y ago
Yeah I was gonna say, this story sounded familiar. Props to Brian Dunning on this one for apparently being one of the few to actually look at the context of the publishing of this story. It appeared with a bunch of other stories in that newspaper that were pretty clearly jokes. >In one, an "aerial monster" landed in a field, piloted by men from New York. In another, the crew consisted of lost Jews from the ten tribes of Israel who told a judge they'd come from the North Pole.

shookness 4y ago

"Author attempts to jump-start town with fictional UFO story" https://www.tshaonline.org/texas-day-by-day/entry/118 https://www.tshaonline.org/texas-day-by-day/entry/118 This seems like a likely explanation of the story, but I admit I want to believe...

steponlego 4y ago

Fascinating stuff, and yet more evidence that aliens are in fact simply Biblical demons.