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NATFB (not a tesla fan boy) but isn’t there an inherent bias towards reporting and exploiting FSD’s faulty behaviors vs reporting the times where it saved butts
by whiplash451 4y ago
NATFB (not a tesla fan boy) but isn’t there an inherent bias towards reporting and exploiting FSD’s faulty behaviors vs reporting the times where it saved butts?
- danso 4y agoElevators undoubtedly save lives over time, but it's a lot harder to count how many heart attacks didn't happen vs. how many people were suddenly crushed to death. But if an elevator ran perfectly for years at a time but also could, at any moment, instantly and inexplicably kill its occupants — it's still every important to understand why there's a flaw in the automation. In any case, how would you measure when FSD/AP "saved butts"? Every driver is expected to operate the systems with the same ability and awareness to manually intervene (i.e. save themselves) as if the automation wasn't in place.
- whiplash451 4y ago> In any case, how would you measure when FSD/AP "saved butts"? I would not know how to measure it, but Karpathy provided a clear example during a talk at CVPR 2021 where the FSD (rightfully) slammed the break as a driver was driving his car literally into a lake.
- AareyBaba 4y agoThe expectation is that FSD should not do stupid things that a normal alert human driver would not do like 1. drive straight into a concrete barrier https://youtu.be/Tr-oF7J0cBw?t=13 https://youtu.be/Tr-oF7J0cBw?t=13 2. drive straight under a tractor trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BgV-YnHZeE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BgV-YnHZeE In this instance 3. Come to a complete halt in a tunnel with busy high speed traffic for no apparent reason. And the excuse that the driver should have been ready to take over within fractions of a second of the Tesla making a mistake while in FSD is absurd expectations on human reflexes and attention.