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Can you explain why?

by oxfordmale 4y ago

giraffe_lady 4y ago
The statement in the article is a strong and detailed explanation of why.
- bfgoodrich 4y ago
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- oxfordmale 4y ago
  Java and JavaScript are just a few technology names that can be perceived as cultural appropriation (Javanese culture from the island of Java, Indonesia) Mazda is a car manufacturer, however, it also the name of a god. Pick any technology name and it will have a double meaning in a language or region in the world. Where do we stop? It would be more meaningful if the Apache foundation included a link on the homepage explaining the origin of its name and an make an annual contribution to a relevant charity.
  - giraffe_lady 4y ago
    If a group with a strong claim to representing one of those names comes forward with a public statement about why it's harmful we can evaluate it. We don't need to create a perfectly generalizable framework to address a specific concrete request.
    - oxfordmale 4y ago
      Are you aware of the origin of the word Apache ? Their name comes from a Zuni word meaning "enemy". It means the Apache tribes have been culturally appropriating a word from a different tribe as a badge of honour. Or doesn't that count?
- Daishiman 4y ago
  It is detailed; it is not strong. There are tens of thousands of cultures and minority groups around the world and stereotyping will happen. Said stereotyping in this case is absolutely innocuous and frankly irrelevant in the grand scheme of actual problems indigenous communities have.
- SapporoChris 4y ago
  The article is written by "ADAM RECVLOHE, HOLLY GRIMM, DESIREE KANE". It sounds more like an opinion article than factual to me. But it's not up to me or anyone else to decide. Changing a company name is an expensive proposition. I don't see it happening without going to court.
  - orra 4y ago
    > Changing a company name is an expensive proposition Companies regularly rebrand. A brand depreciates, just like equipment, and so is regularly updated.
dvaun 4y ago
The article outlined several reasons why the choice of “Apache” and its conception show classic errors people make by romanticizing indigenous cultures and then appropriating their terms or cultural symbols.
- password-234 4y ago
  Now the question is, is it acceptable for people to be this sensitive?
  - kelseyfrog 4y ago
    It's pretty easy to hold a mirror up to this question and ask, would you like to be told how sensitive you are allowed to be?
    - password-234 4y ago
      Sometimes people just need to be told how silly they are being. Also my post is regarding the OP specifically, nothing about other cultural appropriation or anything. Some of the arguments have actual merits. Arguing about Apache is not one of them.
      - kelseyfrog 4y ago
        Care to expand on that? How do you determine which arguments have merit and which don't?
    - fidgewidge 4y ago
      Children are told this all the time.
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28304283409234 4y ago
The article does a fine job doing that, wouldn't you agree?

Can you explain why?

giraffe_lady 4y ago

The statement in the article is a strong and detailed explanation of why.

bfgoodrich 4y ago
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oxfordmale 4y ago
Java and JavaScript are just a few technology names that can be perceived as cultural appropriation (Javanese culture from the island of Java, Indonesia) Mazda is a car manufacturer, however, it also the name of a god. Pick any technology name and it will have a double meaning in a language or region in the world. Where do we stop? It would be more meaningful if the Apache foundation included a link on the homepage explaining the origin of its name and an make an annual contribution to a relevant charity.
- giraffe_lady 4y ago
  If a group with a strong claim to representing one of those names comes forward with a public statement about why it's harmful we can evaluate it. We don't need to create a perfectly generalizable framework to address a specific concrete request.
  - oxfordmale 4y ago
    Are you aware of the origin of the word Apache ? Their name comes from a Zuni word meaning "enemy". It means the Apache tribes have been culturally appropriating a word from a different tribe as a badge of honour. Or doesn't that count?
Daishiman 4y ago
It is detailed; it is not strong. There are tens of thousands of cultures and minority groups around the world and stereotyping will happen. Said stereotyping in this case is absolutely innocuous and frankly irrelevant in the grand scheme of actual problems indigenous communities have.
SapporoChris 4y ago
The article is written by "ADAM RECVLOHE, HOLLY GRIMM, DESIREE KANE". It sounds more like an opinion article than factual to me. But it's not up to me or anyone else to decide. Changing a company name is an expensive proposition. I don't see it happening without going to court.
- orra 4y ago
  > Changing a company name is an expensive proposition Companies regularly rebrand. A brand depreciates, just like equipment, and so is regularly updated.

dvaun 4y ago

The article outlined several reasons why the choice of “Apache” and its conception show classic errors people make by romanticizing indigenous cultures and then appropriating their terms or cultural symbols.

password-234 4y ago
Now the question is, is it acceptable for people to be this sensitive?
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  It's pretty easy to hold a mirror up to this question and ask, would you like to be told how sensitive you are allowed to be?
  - password-234 4y ago
    Sometimes people just need to be told how silly they are being. Also my post is regarding the OP specifically, nothing about other cultural appropriation or anything. Some of the arguments have actual merits. Arguing about Apache is not one of them.
    - kelseyfrog 4y ago
      Care to expand on that? How do you determine which arguments have merit and which don't?
  - fidgewidge 4y ago
    Children are told this all the time.
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28304283409234 4y ago

The article does a fine job doing that, wouldn't you agree?