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It's so weird to me that people don't know that text-davinci-003 and code-davinci-003 exist. OpenAI models available via API and very similar to ChatGPT output

by ilaksh 4y ago

It's so weird to me that people don't know that text-davinci-003 and code-davinci-003 exist. OpenAI models available via API and very similar to ChatGPT output in many cases. Also text-davinci-003 was released in a similar time period. It seems very affordable to me as a startup. I have already coded most of the credits system. https://aidev.codes https://aidev.codes

danShumway 4y ago
> very similar to ChatGPT output in many cases I kind of disagree with this, I think ChatGPT is a superior system in terms of pure output. It strikes me as the sort of comparisons people make between Open Source voice recognition (which is great for a lot of stuff) vs the serverside systems (which may be more than you need, but are almost always going to produce better output). Opinion me. > Available via API The only way that an API gets monetized is through a subscription model or as a loss leader for other content (ads, etc...). Given that AI chat isn't a great fit for advertising (at least not without making it a lot less useful), I strongly suspect that the API model is going to get more expensive in the future. Again, just something I suspect. Maybe it will get much cheaper to host, but the optimism people have about that is I think more of a hope than a solid expectation. There are much cheaper things to host than an AI system that don't end up being affordable to individuals and end up being primarily marketed towards businesses.
- danielbln 4y ago
  They only recently lowered API prices significantly: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6485334-september-2022-openai-api-pricing-update-faq https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6485334-september-2022-o...
  - danShumway 4y ago
    I mean, we'll see if that's still the case a year or two from now. Maybe I'm wrong and the models will stay very affordable. I could very well be wrong. It's just not the trend that I usually see in tech, and I don't personally see a lot of differences between AI and other tech products that make me think it's going to be an exception to the general market direction that subscription services usually go.
- DougBTX 4y ago
  > vs the serverside systems I believe this runs client side, but whether it counts as open source is likely open for debate: https://github.com/ggerganov/whisper.cpp https://github.com/ggerganov/whisper.cpp
ops 4y ago
I think you mean code-davinci-002. I’m waiting for 003 of codex, and I’m fairly sure it’s not available publicly (even to us beta testers) yet.
ilaksh 4y ago
Typo: code-davinci-003 does not exist. 002 does

by ilaksh 4y ago

danShumway 4y ago

> very similar to ChatGPT output in many cases I kind of disagree with this, I think ChatGPT is a superior system in terms of pure output. It strikes me as the sort of comparisons people make between Open Source voice recognition (which is great for a lot of stuff) vs the serverside systems (which may be more than you need, but are almost always going to produce better output). Opinion me. > Available via API The only way that an API gets monetized is through a subscription model or as a loss leader for other content (ads, etc...). Given that AI chat isn't a great fit for advertising (at least not without making it a lot less useful), I strongly suspect that the API model is going to get more expensive in the future. Again, just something I suspect. Maybe it will get much cheaper to host, but the optimism people have about that is I think more of a hope than a solid expectation. There are much cheaper things to host than an AI system that don't end up being affordable to individuals and end up being primarily marketed towards businesses.

danielbln 4y ago
They only recently lowered API prices significantly: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6485334-september-2022-openai-api-pricing-update-faq https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6485334-september-2022-o...
- danShumway 4y ago
  I mean, we'll see if that's still the case a year or two from now. Maybe I'm wrong and the models will stay very affordable. I could very well be wrong. It's just not the trend that I usually see in tech, and I don't personally see a lot of differences between AI and other tech products that make me think it's going to be an exception to the general market direction that subscription services usually go.
DougBTX 4y ago
> vs the serverside systems I believe this runs client side, but whether it counts as open source is likely open for debate: https://github.com/ggerganov/whisper.cpp https://github.com/ggerganov/whisper.cpp

ops 4y ago

I think you mean code-davinci-002. I’m waiting for 003 of codex, and I’m fairly sure it’s not available publicly (even to us beta testers) yet.

ilaksh 4y ago

Typo: code-davinci-003 does not exist. 002 does