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Stop trusting shitty platforms that treat you like a product. Hotels have existed for a millenia and good hotels treat their customers very well. Of course it c

Stop trusting shitty platforms that treat you like a product. Hotels have existed for a millenia and good hotels treat their customers very well. Of course it costs more, this is why. You essentially get what you pay for.

laweijfmvo 4y ago
> Good thing we arrived at 11am and not 6pm. or we'd be literally f*cked for the night. Was mostly suprprised to read this, as if they'd never even heard of hotels. Depending on the location, a hotel may or may not have been available, but there are shocking number of hotel rooms available on any given night in almost any location (U.S. in my exerience)
- mumblemumble 4y ago
  Well, they were also planning to stay for a month. At least in my opinion, hotels are typically not a great choice for a stay of that duration, and extended stay hotels are often in locations that just don't work if you don't have a car.
  - jimmydddd 4y ago
    My impression with this comment was that OP seemed to be emphasizing that they had no place to stay that first night.
  - jen20 4y ago
    They’re fine for one night while you resolve the Airbnb problem though.
- dagw 4y ago
  Yea, even if I was to stay at an AirBnB long term, I would be very careful with booking an AirBnB for the day I arrived. I've had enough experience where I was supposed to be at the hotel by 2pm and actually ended up at the hotel at 2 am. With hotels this is never a problem.
Nextgrid 4y ago
Hotels don't cost much more when you account for all the various fees and unreliable service or unexpected state of the property.
- drstewart 4y ago
  Try finding a hotel ~$1000/month in major European cities
  - dazc 4y ago
    Would you book an airbnb for a month without staying in it for a short stay first?
    - HDThoreaun 4y ago
      I've had great experiences doing this.
    - drstewart 4y ago
      I've done it many times, never really had an issue. You learn quickly how to identify ones that will work for you from the description, photos, and reviews.
escapedmoose 4y ago
The only time it seems reasonable to use AirBnb is when you’re traveling with a large group to a set destination; then you can rent a whole house and split up chores. Otherwise, you wind up paying just slightly less to stay in a place without service, meals, concierge etc usually far away from any attractions you might be interested in. I haven’t personally had any bad AirBnB experiences, but hotels have so many advantages and aren’t all that costly.
cageface 4y ago
The problem is that for longer stays the typical hotel room is a lot less comfortable than an Airbnb apartment or condo with more space and a kitchen and without weird hotel WiFi that often barely works at all.
- akerl_ 4y ago
  I'd take crappy wifi over the host literally being a scam and booking me a building that they do not own.
  - cageface 4y ago
    Maybe I’ve just gotten lucky but I’ve been staying in Airbnbs all over the world for ten years now and this hasn’t happened to me yet. Bad Wi-Fi is a dealbreaker for me because I work remote.
mardifoufs 4y ago
Hotels have existed for millenia but work almost completely differently now. So there's no reason for them to be more reliable. Scammy hotels are extremely common, especially in touristic destinations. Hotel scams are an entire industry of their own, with fake review, ratings, price frauds...
- anikom15 4y ago
  A $40 guidebook and sticking with reputable brands will solve this problem.
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- smugma 4y ago
  Best Western, etc. have variety in quality but still pretty consistent overall with a floor on quality. If your shower is leaking, you’ll be able to get a new room. Maybe the hot tub is broken but that’s pretty rare and will probably get fixed within a day.
Dylan16807 4y ago
> Stop trusting shitty platforms that treat you like a product. Hotels have existed for a millenia and good hotels treat their customers very well. Sure. > Of course it costs more, this is why. You essentially get what you pay for. What costs so much here is finding new accommodation at the last second. Airbnb isn't significantly cheaper than a hotel on average, from what I can find. It mainly has a lot more options to draw people in. So really, you're not getting what you pay for.
danaris 4y ago
Victim-blaming isn't a good look, especially when the "shitty platform" is a multi-billion dollar company that can damn well afford to treat its customers better.
Beltalowda 4y ago
> Of course it costs more, this is why. You essentially get what you pay for. The pricing isn't that different. It's just a worse service. - Can't open the damn window in >95% of hotels. It's often too warm. - Noisy ventilation you can't turn off in a significant number. - No way to prepare your own food. If I'm staying somewhere for a week (or longer) then I don't want to eat out every day. - There's rarely decent desk to work at. That thing with 20cm depth and a height suitable for midgets does not count. - There's rarely a decent sofa. People don't choose AirBnB because it's cheaper. They choose it because it gives them a better service.

laweijfmvo 4y ago

> Good thing we arrived at 11am and not 6pm. or we'd be literally f*cked for the night. Was mostly suprprised to read this, as if they'd never even heard of hotels. Depending on the location, a hotel may or may not have been available, but there are shocking number of hotel rooms available on any given night in almost any location (U.S. in my exerience)

mumblemumble 4y ago
Well, they were also planning to stay for a month. At least in my opinion, hotels are typically not a great choice for a stay of that duration, and extended stay hotels are often in locations that just don't work if you don't have a car.
- jimmydddd 4y ago
  My impression with this comment was that OP seemed to be emphasizing that they had no place to stay that first night.
- jen20 4y ago
  They’re fine for one night while you resolve the Airbnb problem though.
dagw 4y ago
Yea, even if I was to stay at an AirBnB long term, I would be very careful with booking an AirBnB for the day I arrived. I've had enough experience where I was supposed to be at the hotel by 2pm and actually ended up at the hotel at 2 am. With hotels this is never a problem.

Nextgrid 4y ago

Hotels don't cost much more when you account for all the various fees and unreliable service or unexpected state of the property.

drstewart 4y ago
Try finding a hotel ~$1000/month in major European cities
- dazc 4y ago
  Would you book an airbnb for a month without staying in it for a short stay first?
  - HDThoreaun 4y ago
    I've had great experiences doing this.
  - drstewart 4y ago
    I've done it many times, never really had an issue. You learn quickly how to identify ones that will work for you from the description, photos, and reviews.

escapedmoose 4y ago

The only time it seems reasonable to use AirBnb is when you’re traveling with a large group to a set destination; then you can rent a whole house and split up chores. Otherwise, you wind up paying just slightly less to stay in a place without service, meals, concierge etc usually far away from any attractions you might be interested in. I haven’t personally had any bad AirBnB experiences, but hotels have so many advantages and aren’t all that costly.

cageface 4y ago

The problem is that for longer stays the typical hotel room is a lot less comfortable than an Airbnb apartment or condo with more space and a kitchen and without weird hotel WiFi that often barely works at all.

akerl_ 4y ago
I'd take crappy wifi over the host literally being a scam and booking me a building that they do not own.
- cageface 4y ago
  Maybe I’ve just gotten lucky but I’ve been staying in Airbnbs all over the world for ten years now and this hasn’t happened to me yet. Bad Wi-Fi is a dealbreaker for me because I work remote.

mardifoufs 4y ago

Hotels have existed for millenia but work almost completely differently now. So there's no reason for them to be more reliable. Scammy hotels are extremely common, especially in touristic destinations. Hotel scams are an entire industry of their own, with fake review, ratings, price frauds...

anikom15 4y ago
A $40 guidebook and sticking with reputable brands will solve this problem.
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smugma 4y ago
Best Western, etc. have variety in quality but still pretty consistent overall with a floor on quality. If your shower is leaking, you’ll be able to get a new room. Maybe the hot tub is broken but that’s pretty rare and will probably get fixed within a day.

Dylan16807 4y ago

> Stop trusting shitty platforms that treat you like a product. Hotels have existed for a millenia and good hotels treat their customers very well. Sure. > Of course it costs more, this is why. You essentially get what you pay for. What costs so much here is finding new accommodation at the last second. Airbnb isn't significantly cheaper than a hotel on average, from what I can find. It mainly has a lot more options to draw people in. So really, you're not getting what you pay for.

danaris 4y ago

Victim-blaming isn't a good look, especially when the "shitty platform" is a multi-billion dollar company that can damn well afford to treat its customers better.

Beltalowda 4y ago

> Of course it costs more, this is why. You essentially get what you pay for. The pricing isn't that different. It's just a worse service. - Can't open the damn window in >95% of hotels. It's often too warm. - Noisy ventilation you can't turn off in a significant number. - No way to prepare your own food. If I'm staying somewhere for a week (or longer) then I don't want to eat out every day. - There's rarely decent desk to work at. That thing with 20cm depth and a height suitable for midgets does not count. - There's rarely a decent sofa. People don't choose AirBnB because it's cheaper. They choose it because it gives them a better service.