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That's a bigger issue isn't it? We have a generation of people (we can label em kids, but they are just people) that will grow up thinking it's normal to be an

That's a bigger issue isn't it? We have a generation of people (we can label em kids, but they are just people) that will grow up thinking it's normal to be an exhibitionist at all times. And they are the next people that will run the world. I'm just not optimistic about the future at all.

edrxty 4y ago
Kids these days, amirite? Every generation has had their asshole exhibitionists. Technology has just been pushing said assholes towards making TikTube content lately. Boomers did the radio shock-jockey routine, X did deeply weird television and lately podcasts, Y did 1st gen/text+photo social media, and Z is doing 2nd gen/video+photo social media. This isn't Gen Y/Z being somehow inferior, "we" (the readers of this community) did this.
- jesuscript 4y ago
  How different was 1970 to 1995? Socially people were under the same framework. There's a huge difference between 2005 at 2020 for example. I don't think we can chalk this up to get-off-my-lawn syndrome that simply. The music, games and movies are very much similar from times of old (you might like it, you might not, you might just be getting old, that's the part that never changes or causes alarm). It's social behavior that's peculiar - in a bad way.
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  - int_19h 4y ago
    I would say that the difference between 1995 and 1970 is significantly greater than between 2020 and 2005. Then again, I wasn't around in 1970, so I can only judge that difference based on how it was recorded.
maxbond 4y ago
> I'm just not optimistic about the future at all. Couldn't you have made this comment in any generation though? I could imagine someone making it while listening to a news story about Woodstock on the radio.
- giardia 4y ago
  Yeah but not everybody at Woodstock was recording everything that they and everyone around them did. Almost every single citizen is now equipped with a surveillance device at all hours of their life, and they have incentive to use them and share the data they collect. This is little to no recourse for you if you don't want to be recorded. At least in the 60s it was a handful of news casters with huge equipment you could steer clear of.
  - maxbond 4y ago
    I agree this is a problem, I was responding to the notion there was no hope for the future.
    - giardia 4y ago
      I see, misunderstood you.
      - maxbond 4y ago
        I could've also been more clear, thank you for the feedback. I've edited the comment in an attempt to clarify.
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  - shadowgovt 4y ago
    This may be a bad example, because I've literally seen video of people screwing in public at Woodstock. Cameras weren't ubiquitous then but it was a major enough event that a lot of cameras were there.
idiotsecant 4y ago
Repeat after me and breathe deeply: The quirks and preferences of the next generation that are different from my quirks and preferences are just different, not necessarily better or worse. People have been complaining about the terrible thing the new generation does since there has been people. It's a bug / feature of our relatively short lifespan - on one hand our souls calcify a bit as we age and we start to see new as scary at the same time we are getting more powerful in society. On the other hand the reaction to the calcification of the soul that the newer generation has helps to push things into new and different directions, but at a time when those people are not very powerful in society. It's an interesting balance, and its fun to think about how culture and society would change if that balance was tipped one way or the other.
- jesuscript 4y ago
  It's not as generational as you think (and I realize this makes my previous post hypocritical, but whatever). I can tell you many Gen Z and Millenials notice something is a little off with the trends even amongst ourselves. We're turning weird, and not in a healthy way. Maybe others closer to these trends can chime in.
  - TulliusCicero 4y ago
    > I can tell you many Gen Z and Millenials notice something is a little off with the trends even amongst ourselves. Do you think this wasn't true among previous generations?
    - jesuscript 4y ago
      This is a rabbit hole if we go back and forth. Yes, there was always a get-off-my-lawn element in previous generations. But I am trying to hone in on certain critiques that are valid for certain generations. I'll give in you an example: It was (whether the generation was self aware or not) mostly acceptably for people in America in the 1950s to be mildly racist towards black people (it's just, how they grew up, it was the status quo). That's not a get-off-my-lawn observation of that demographic. This was not a simple generational "quirk", it was a notable flaw. Socially, I think somethings a little up with whatever is going on now days. But that's just me and history will sort this. Things are very hard to sort out as it's actually happening.
dsfyu404ed 4y ago
The wilder the future gets the higher the baseline of noise I can blend into.
watwut 4y ago
Jesus, a kid walked up to him and then apologized after seeing annoyed face. There is no bigger issue. I personally know kids who tried something similar playing at journalists almost 30 years ago. This literally sounds like a normal healthy development where a kid tries a thing he/she seen on TV, recognizes negative social feedback and backs off.
standardUser 4y ago
It's a good thing that so many young people feel free to be themselves, in public and on the record, instead of constantly stifling themselves and hiding away. Just think about how much previous generations had to hide and play-act and deny who they were. It led to nothing but pain and suffering and death.
Dudeman112 4y ago
Because the world has been so well run these last 50 years...

edrxty 4y ago

Kids these days, amirite? Every generation has had their asshole exhibitionists. Technology has just been pushing said assholes towards making TikTube content lately. Boomers did the radio shock-jockey routine, X did deeply weird television and lately podcasts, Y did 1st gen/text+photo social media, and Z is doing 2nd gen/video+photo social media. This isn't Gen Y/Z being somehow inferior, "we" (the readers of this community) did this.

jesuscript 4y ago
How different was 1970 to 1995? Socially people were under the same framework. There's a huge difference between 2005 at 2020 for example. I don't think we can chalk this up to get-off-my-lawn syndrome that simply. The music, games and movies are very much similar from times of old (you might like it, you might not, you might just be getting old, that's the part that never changes or causes alarm). It's social behavior that's peculiar - in a bad way.
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- int_19h 4y ago
  I would say that the difference between 1995 and 1970 is significantly greater than between 2020 and 2005. Then again, I wasn't around in 1970, so I can only judge that difference based on how it was recorded.

maxbond 4y ago

> I'm just not optimistic about the future at all. Couldn't you have made this comment in any generation though? I could imagine someone making it while listening to a news story about Woodstock on the radio.

giardia 4y ago
Yeah but not everybody at Woodstock was recording everything that they and everyone around them did. Almost every single citizen is now equipped with a surveillance device at all hours of their life, and they have incentive to use them and share the data they collect. This is little to no recourse for you if you don't want to be recorded. At least in the 60s it was a handful of news casters with huge equipment you could steer clear of.
- maxbond 4y ago
  I agree this is a problem, I was responding to the notion there was no hope for the future.
  - giardia 4y ago
    I see, misunderstood you.
    - maxbond 4y ago
      I could've also been more clear, thank you for the feedback. I've edited the comment in an attempt to clarify.
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- shadowgovt 4y ago
  This may be a bad example, because I've literally seen video of people screwing in public at Woodstock. Cameras weren't ubiquitous then but it was a major enough event that a lot of cameras were there.

idiotsecant 4y ago

Repeat after me and breathe deeply: The quirks and preferences of the next generation that are different from my quirks and preferences are just different, not necessarily better or worse. People have been complaining about the terrible thing the new generation does since there has been people. It's a bug / feature of our relatively short lifespan - on one hand our souls calcify a bit as we age and we start to see new as scary at the same time we are getting more powerful in society. On the other hand the reaction to the calcification of the soul that the newer generation has helps to push things into new and different directions, but at a time when those people are not very powerful in society. It's an interesting balance, and its fun to think about how culture and society would change if that balance was tipped one way or the other.

jesuscript 4y ago
It's not as generational as you think (and I realize this makes my previous post hypocritical, but whatever). I can tell you many Gen Z and Millenials notice something is a little off with the trends even amongst ourselves. We're turning weird, and not in a healthy way. Maybe others closer to these trends can chime in.
- TulliusCicero 4y ago
  > I can tell you many Gen Z and Millenials notice something is a little off with the trends even amongst ourselves. Do you think this wasn't true among previous generations?
  - jesuscript 4y ago
    This is a rabbit hole if we go back and forth. Yes, there was always a get-off-my-lawn element in previous generations. But I am trying to hone in on certain critiques that are valid for certain generations. I'll give in you an example: It was (whether the generation was self aware or not) mostly acceptably for people in America in the 1950s to be mildly racist towards black people (it's just, how they grew up, it was the status quo). That's not a get-off-my-lawn observation of that demographic. This was not a simple generational "quirk", it was a notable flaw. Socially, I think somethings a little up with whatever is going on now days. But that's just me and history will sort this. Things are very hard to sort out as it's actually happening.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago

The wilder the future gets the higher the baseline of noise I can blend into.

watwut 4y ago

Jesus, a kid walked up to him and then apologized after seeing annoyed face. There is no bigger issue. I personally know kids who tried something similar playing at journalists almost 30 years ago. This literally sounds like a normal healthy development where a kid tries a thing he/she seen on TV, recognizes negative social feedback and backs off.

standardUser 4y ago

It's a good thing that so many young people feel free to be themselves, in public and on the record, instead of constantly stifling themselves and hiding away. Just think about how much previous generations had to hide and play-act and deny who they were. It led to nothing but pain and suffering and death.

Dudeman112 4y ago

Because the world has been so well run these last 50 years...