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iPhone SE is £450 right now, I could buy a Xiaomi for less than half that and another one in 2 years time, getting hardware updates and software updates. Combin

iPhone SE is £450 right now, I could buy a Xiaomi for less than half that and another one in 2 years time, getting hardware updates and software updates. Combined with apples policy of throttling older devices the ongoing OS support isn't that much of a benefit. Personally I stopped using iPhones after the iaPhoje4 when apple made it a huge ballache to repair a broken screen. The iPhine 3g was the easiest phone I have ever replaced a screen on and I fixed a lot of them from the original iPhone, but the time sink on a 4 made it uneconomical, infused to do then for £50 and would have it done I. 15 minutes. The 4 had to be disassembled entirely and reassembled, and you couldn't check the screen until it was all back together, loose connection, bad part, tough, disassemble/reassemble

vouaobrasil 4y ago
I like extended software updates NOT for the price, but because I don't create as much e-waste buying 2 phones instead of 1.
Toutouxc 4y ago
> Combined with apples policy of throttling older devices What policy are you talking about?
- fragmede 4y ago
  Oh yeah no it was a whole thing. Apple paid out over $100 million because they were slowing down older phones. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/apple-settles-with-states-for-113m-over-iphone-battery-throttling/amp/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/apple-settles-wi...
  - hedgehog 4y ago
    It was typical Apple arrogance but the actual issue is not nefarious, aging batteries deliver less and less current and eventually it makes devices crash or power off unexpectedly. Always been that way. They just figured out you could improve stability by throttling the CPU to reduce current draw and didn't bother to tell customers. In reality we should think of most modern devices as wearing out over time. Batteries age, flash cells go bad, LEDs dim, OLEDs burn in... Most everything gets slower / worse with use and it would be better if device manufacturers disclosed that clearly.

vouaobrasil 4y ago

I like extended software updates NOT for the price, but because I don't create as much e-waste buying 2 phones instead of 1.

Toutouxc 4y ago

> Combined with apples policy of throttling older devices What policy are you talking about?

fragmede 4y ago
Oh yeah no it was a whole thing. Apple paid out over $100 million because they were slowing down older phones. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/apple-settles-with-states-for-113m-over-iphone-battery-throttling/amp/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/apple-settles-wi...
- hedgehog 4y ago
  It was typical Apple arrogance but the actual issue is not nefarious, aging batteries deliver less and less current and eventually it makes devices crash or power off unexpectedly. Always been that way. They just figured out you could improve stability by throttling the CPU to reduce current draw and didn't bother to tell customers. In reality we should think of most modern devices as wearing out over time. Batteries age, flash cells go bad, LEDs dim, OLEDs burn in... Most everything gets slower / worse with use and it would be better if device manufacturers disclosed that clearly.