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Why did you buy one then? If only there was a way to signal to Apple that you do not like artificial limitations being imposed on you.

TaylorAlexander 4y ago
It’s kind of funny to think that my buying choices will influence a trillion dollar company. There are limits to market theory, it does not lead to perfect products.
freedomben 4y ago
I'm disappointed that this question is downvoted, because I would also like to know the answer. I would guess it's "because even an artifically limited iPad is still better than every alternative," (which is fair. It's a personal preference, and those are all equally valid IMHO), but I've been trying to understand why people who dislike Apple's philosophy still buy so much Apple stuff.
- Karupan 4y ago
  That was definitely the reason I got an iPad. I looked but haven't found a tablet that has the same build quality, performance and battery life. Too bad the software is so locked down!
  - celticninja 4y ago
    What do you use it for?.my tablet is primarily used for reading comics and technical books, at which it excels. If I need to do anything more challenging then it makes sense to use my laptop, even copy and paste between applications is a ballache on any tablet compared to a pc. So what is the extra apple price getting you, or more usefully what are you doing on the iPad that an alternative tablet could not do?
    - Karupan 4y ago
      Valid question. For me, it’s about being in the apple ecosystem and seamlessly integrating with my other devices. I use it as a second monitor when traveling with my MacBook and use it as a HomeKit hub.
  - anakaine 4y ago
    I'm in the same boat. I've got an ipad pro, meaning m1 and a good enough amount of ram and storage. I'd love for it to be able to run MacOS. I bought it because I wanted a good tablet. I'd just like to be able to have a good tablet and not have to buy a Macbook too since I have decent windows machines anyway. It's a want, not a need, to be able to run macos.
  - bronson 4y ago
    I can't find anything even close to the iPad plus Pencil for sketching/crative stuff. First I tried a Yoga 2-in-1, then a Surface, both Windows & Linux... Then I tried an iPad pro. It's just no contest. The iPad and Pencil always have battery, always ready to go, and there are tons of very high-quality stylus-oriented apps. The other platforms were a laborious wasteland. It's frustrating because I mostly use Linux elsewhere. (that said, the iPad has some idiotic warts too... like file sync is terrible, and Apple makes it so it's basically impossible for apps to fix that. And 30% is highway robbery)
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      Next time go with a Samsung tablet.
  - kitsunesoba 4y ago
    At least iPadOS isn’t preloaded with crud and questionable at best modifications like Android on many devices is. One of my biggest gripes with Android devices is that they don’t come with the option of installing plain mainline Android out of the box, meaning you’re stuck with whatever modifications e.g. Samsung has deemed necessary until a big third party distro like LineageOS adds support for your device or someone on some forum posts a dodgy unofficial build. This means that if you want a clean experience your best bet is to be behind the curve on hardware but that’s no fun, particularly if you’re wanting to use the device for a task where the extra power (or lack thereof) is readily apparent. I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them nuke them and put clean Android on them, but that doesn’t look to be happening any time soon. I know open tablet projects exist to fix this and that’s great, but those suffer from hardware that’s anemic in comparison to flagship bigcorp stuff.
    - htag 4y ago
      > I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them nuke them and put clean Android on them I'm a bit confused by this statement. 1. What is "clean" Android? 2. How do you put clean Android on a prebuilt Windows PC? 3. Why do you put clean Android on any PC?
      - yardstick 4y ago
        Replace all instances of the word “them” with “tablet” and re-read.
      - Retric 4y ago
        The them isn’t referring to a windows PC. “I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them [a Galaxy tablet] like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them[a Galaxy tablet] nuke them [a Galaxy Tablet] and put clean Android on them [the Galaxy tablet]”
      - kitsunesoba 4y ago
        For #1, "clean" Android is analogous to "clean" Windows, in other words Android minus all carrier and manufacturer junk. For #2 and #3, it's as the sibling comments say; I want to be able to replace the customized versions of Android bundled by OEMs with "clean" Android, even if the device was just released yesterday.
  - Manuel_D 4y ago
    I'm pretty pleased with my Samsung Galaxy Tab S8+. The stylus feels nice and the performance is good. I can even run 3d games like Warhammer 40k mechanicus and it's not too much of a downgrade from pc graphics. All this whole being super thin. Removable SD card is also great. There's some rough edges: chiefly the stylus only charges in one orientation. And Samsung preloads it with a bunch of crap. But I'd prefer it over a iPad any day.
- vouaobrasil 4y ago
  In some cases like phones, it is because Apple supports their phones much longer than any Android phone. My iPhone SE from 2016 just got an update -- that's crazy. That being said, I still dislike many of Apple's practices, but there really isn't a better alternative. (IMO, Phones in general are trash. They should last as long as desktop computers).
  - fsflover 4y ago
    > (IMO, Phones in general are trash. They should last as long as desktop computers) This is exactly why I bought Librem 5 smartphone running desktop Linux. It will get updates forever.
  - celticninja 4y ago
    iPhone SE is £450 right now, I could buy a Xiaomi for less than half that and another one in 2 years time, getting hardware updates and software updates. Combined with apples policy of throttling older devices the ongoing OS support isn't that much of a benefit. Personally I stopped using iPhones after the iaPhoje4 when apple made it a huge ballache to repair a broken screen. The iPhine 3g was the easiest phone I have ever replaced a screen on and I fixed a lot of them from the original iPhone, but the time sink on a 4 made it uneconomical, infused to do then for £50 and would have it done I. 15 minutes. The 4 had to be disassembled entirely and reassembled, and you couldn't check the screen until it was all back together, loose connection, bad part, tough, disassemble/reassemble
    - vouaobrasil 4y ago
      I like extended software updates NOT for the price, but because I don't create as much e-waste buying 2 phones instead of 1.
    - Toutouxc 4y ago
      > Combined with apples policy of throttling older devices What policy are you talking about?
      - 4y ago
- bitwize 4y ago
  Apple is just built different as a tech company. Even with the limitations their products are vastly, vastly better than the alternatives. It is literally impossible, for example, to get a smartphone from another vendor anywhere near as powerful as the latest iPhone. So people buy iPhones and deal with or work around the limitations.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    Their limitations are features in many ways. I don’t need to run a web server on my iPad, but I’m glad that shitty apps can’t be always running wasting battery to provide advert notifications like they used to on android.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      That's fine and well, but it's still not a justification for taking the option away from other users.
      - Gigachad 4y ago
        I don’t need a justification for other peoples use cases. The device does exactly what I want so I bought it. If I waned a device I could run webservers on, I’d buy something else. If they changed the advertised capabilities after purchase, that would be different.
        smoldesu 4y ago
        The device does exactly what I want too, except Apple directly prevents me from loading the code that I want to run on-device. > If they changed the advertised capabilities after purchase, that would be different. The suggestion I'm making does not remove any advertised capabilities. There is no 'difference' to speak of. Again, nobody has given a concrete reason why the things that I want stop you from getting what you want.
      - bitwize 4y ago
        Having a long battery life sells more iPads than being infinitely hackable.
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  Imagine having a 0 to 100 scale of how much we value the device. Some of us are somewhere around 70 or 80 for the mac laptops, and 50 for iPads. That’s why you’ll hear very critical takes while people might still be buying the device. Also I’m of the opinion that buying something shouldn’t mean closing ones eyes about its flaws or being lucid on what you hate about it. The “voting with your wallet” thing is to me just a meme that want the world to look more simple than it is, except if you’re actually donating to lobbies to bribe politicians. To take another example, I would understand someone buying iPhones while completely hating Apple’s attitude toward developers and consumers in general, the world is just that complicated.
  - judge2020 4y ago
    Even so, this just goes back to the question of "why does Apple get 30% of each transaction", since artificially preventing people from sideloading Android is one of the main ways they achieve all of their goals: 30% cut of video game IAPs, security in the face of evil maid attacks, and maintaining their brand image (since people might still blame Apple for Android running slow/having short battery life on iPhone hardware). All of this is because iPhone is a product, not a general purpose computer that you can do anything on, and this philosophy is the reason iPhone "just works", while everyone has seen some windows laptop running slow due to McAfee or Norton Antivirus bloatware, or infested with adware and 100 shell extensions. Even Macs are more likely to have malware since you have the choice to install whatever you want, while the furthest iOS malware can go is excessive tracking to third parties (the xcode virus/the Life360 app); you won't find adware that infects every app or uses your phone as a botnet zombie.
    - h4waii 4y ago
      Apple has paid out about $20 million dollars in their security bounty program, and a good portion of that must be iOS-related, so much so that they offer dedicated iOS devices to researchers. iPhones have been jailbroken by visiting a webpage, receiving a message, or joining a WiFi network. Just about every single iOS release is patching a vuln that was reported or found in the wild being exploited. So, really, is the "furthest iOS malware" concern being 3rd party tracking a genuine statement?
- achairapart 4y ago
  MacOS doesn't support touch, at all. The day Apple will release a MacOS version with touch support that runs on iPads, most of the Macbook line-up will likely cease to exist. While this may still happen one day, to this day Apple is already very happy to sell the current iPad to mostly buyers, not users, who may even be scared of the many buttons and windows of a full featured operating system on their limited but intuitive and easy-to-use device.
  - xattt 4y ago
    The modBook, released for the last decade, would like to have a word with you.
    - achairapart 4y ago
      Again, Pen != touch. I actually use a 10-points touch enabled monitor with macOS (because reasons...), it needs aftermarket drivers[0]. And even with them the macOS UI is not touch nor multi-touch ready. And it seems there are no plans yet for it[1]. [0]: https://www.touch-base.com/ https://www.touch-base.com/ [1]: https://www.macobserver.com/news/craig-federighi-no-touchscreen-mac/ https://www.macobserver.com/news/craig-federighi-no-touchscr...
  - sgjohnson 4y ago
    MacOS supports touch. Natively. Try using an iPad as an external display on a Mac using Sidecar. It will accept Apple Pencil input.
    - achairapart 4y ago
      The pencil, unlike fingers, is an accurate pointer device, like the mouse cursor.
    - justsomehnguy 4y ago
      This is not a touch input. This is a pen input.
- yafbum 4y ago
  The sentence starting with "if only" doesn't sound like it's being made as a good faith argument. Within its form factor, the iPad is still, in spite of its limitations, an obvious leader.
- turndown 4y ago
  - Best of all options - … if more are needed, the pen and especially the keyboard are genius. - I have grown more distrustful of what Google actually does than what Apple might That all said, I can’t think of other devices that are so intentionally limited as the iPad(Pro) really is. Maybe a powerful sports car with a governor in it? Most devices are designed to meet a certain usage profile, but the iPad is unique in that there is so much left on the table in so many ways. I would be overjoyed if I knew one day I could load up an actual OS on to this amazing thing.
- magic_hamster 4y ago
  They might not have known which chipset is in the device when they got it. It sounds like something you'd find out later own and look into expanding the device's usability, only to get disappointed because (surprise) it's Apple.
empyrrhicist 4y ago
I would have assumed form factor...
pessimizer 4y ago
Apple doesn't hear when you don't buy an iPad, so it's a strange signal.
smoldesu 4y ago
> If only there was a way to signal to Apple that you do not like artificial limitations In Europe they call it legislation!
- pjmlp 4y ago
  In Europe, most people give money to Google instead.
wahnfrieden 4y ago
Building the world you want to see via individual purchasing decisions is an extremely neoliberal (whether lib or con) notion.
rtpg 4y ago
Perhaps there are things that they like about the tool and that work well enough in iOS. There is no line item veto on signaling liking or disliking a thing overall. It is possible to (for example) dislike locked down systems but like having a tablet that works well for normal purposes, and for that balance to end up with a purchase. People like to act like buying a thing with properties they don't like is something only rubes do, but everyone does this all the time. It's perfectly reasonable to want things to be better without actively boycotting something that is merely mediocre!
atkailash 4y ago
One can simultaneously find practicality in a device in its current state while also recognizing its flaws or obvious potential. It’s not an all or nothing situation.
alex7734 4y ago
Every non-PC device nowadays has artificial limitations.
mattigames 4y ago
A MacBook is my main development computer but is because is the one the company I work for gave me, they didn't let me pick or anything, I would have never picked it over a Windows alternative, still I like to talk about the things and dislike and the few I like about it. In general good idea to not in mediately assume that just because you are an user of something you were the one that bought it or chose it.
devwastaken 4y ago
Wallet voting doesn't change patent or copyrights. Doesn't change political influence, and certainly doesn't change the market. That's a lie made up so people think they have some control of big essential corps. Microsoft, or Apple or any other big names are essential services. They will do whatever they want, and you have to buy it eventually. The decisions are made by execs whom don't associate with consumers like you or I. Any time Apple makes a change, it's not because they read feedback. It's because of the whims of big wigs at apple. And apple hands down makes the best tech. By being born you're in the game, and to compete you need what the other guy is competing with.
ls15 4y ago
Because there are things that only work on an iPad, such as accessing the high quality touch-enabled audio/music apps that only run on iOS. Most app makers simply don't create them for Android. I think it is an awesome product, but that does not mean that I am against Apple being forced to open up their walled garden. Voting with my wallet does not always help.

TaylorAlexander 4y ago

It’s kind of funny to think that my buying choices will influence a trillion dollar company. There are limits to market theory, it does not lead to perfect products.

freedomben 4y ago

I'm disappointed that this question is downvoted, because I would also like to know the answer. I would guess it's "because even an artifically limited iPad is still better than every alternative," (which is fair. It's a personal preference, and those are all equally valid IMHO), but I've been trying to understand why people who dislike Apple's philosophy still buy so much Apple stuff.

Karupan 4y ago
That was definitely the reason I got an iPad. I looked but haven't found a tablet that has the same build quality, performance and battery life. Too bad the software is so locked down!
- celticninja 4y ago
  What do you use it for?.my tablet is primarily used for reading comics and technical books, at which it excels. If I need to do anything more challenging then it makes sense to use my laptop, even copy and paste between applications is a ballache on any tablet compared to a pc. So what is the extra apple price getting you, or more usefully what are you doing on the iPad that an alternative tablet could not do?
  - Karupan 4y ago
    Valid question. For me, it’s about being in the apple ecosystem and seamlessly integrating with my other devices. I use it as a second monitor when traveling with my MacBook and use it as a HomeKit hub.
- anakaine 4y ago
  I'm in the same boat. I've got an ipad pro, meaning m1 and a good enough amount of ram and storage. I'd love for it to be able to run MacOS. I bought it because I wanted a good tablet. I'd just like to be able to have a good tablet and not have to buy a Macbook too since I have decent windows machines anyway. It's a want, not a need, to be able to run macos.
- bronson 4y ago
  I can't find anything even close to the iPad plus Pencil for sketching/crative stuff. First I tried a Yoga 2-in-1, then a Surface, both Windows & Linux... Then I tried an iPad pro. It's just no contest. The iPad and Pencil always have battery, always ready to go, and there are tons of very high-quality stylus-oriented apps. The other platforms were a laborious wasteland. It's frustrating because I mostly use Linux elsewhere. (that said, the iPad has some idiotic warts too... like file sync is terrible, and Apple makes it so it's basically impossible for apps to fix that. And 30% is highway robbery)
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Next time go with a Samsung tablet.
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  At least iPadOS isn’t preloaded with crud and questionable at best modifications like Android on many devices is. One of my biggest gripes with Android devices is that they don’t come with the option of installing plain mainline Android out of the box, meaning you’re stuck with whatever modifications e.g. Samsung has deemed necessary until a big third party distro like LineageOS adds support for your device or someone on some forum posts a dodgy unofficial build. This means that if you want a clean experience your best bet is to be behind the curve on hardware but that’s no fun, particularly if you’re wanting to use the device for a task where the extra power (or lack thereof) is readily apparent. I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them nuke them and put clean Android on them, but that doesn’t look to be happening any time soon. I know open tablet projects exist to fix this and that’s great, but those suffer from hardware that’s anemic in comparison to flagship bigcorp stuff.
  - htag 4y ago
    > I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them nuke them and put clean Android on them I'm a bit confused by this statement. 1. What is "clean" Android? 2. How do you put clean Android on a prebuilt Windows PC? 3. Why do you put clean Android on any PC?
    - yardstick 4y ago
      Replace all instances of the word “them” with “tablet” and re-read.
    - Retric 4y ago
      The them isn’t referring to a windows PC. “I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them [a Galaxy tablet] like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them[a Galaxy tablet] nuke them [a Galaxy Tablet] and put clean Android on them [the Galaxy tablet]”
    - kitsunesoba 4y ago
      For #1, "clean" Android is analogous to "clean" Windows, in other words Android minus all carrier and manufacturer junk. For #2 and #3, it's as the sibling comments say; I want to be able to replace the customized versions of Android bundled by OEMs with "clean" Android, even if the device was just released yesterday.
- Manuel_D 4y ago
  I'm pretty pleased with my Samsung Galaxy Tab S8+. The stylus feels nice and the performance is good. I can even run 3d games like Warhammer 40k mechanicus and it's not too much of a downgrade from pc graphics. All this whole being super thin. Removable SD card is also great. There's some rough edges: chiefly the stylus only charges in one orientation. And Samsung preloads it with a bunch of crap. But I'd prefer it over a iPad any day.
vouaobrasil 4y ago
In some cases like phones, it is because Apple supports their phones much longer than any Android phone. My iPhone SE from 2016 just got an update -- that's crazy. That being said, I still dislike many of Apple's practices, but there really isn't a better alternative. (IMO, Phones in general are trash. They should last as long as desktop computers).
- fsflover 4y ago
  > (IMO, Phones in general are trash. They should last as long as desktop computers) This is exactly why I bought Librem 5 smartphone running desktop Linux. It will get updates forever.
- celticninja 4y ago
  iPhone SE is £450 right now, I could buy a Xiaomi for less than half that and another one in 2 years time, getting hardware updates and software updates. Combined with apples policy of throttling older devices the ongoing OS support isn't that much of a benefit. Personally I stopped using iPhones after the iaPhoje4 when apple made it a huge ballache to repair a broken screen. The iPhine 3g was the easiest phone I have ever replaced a screen on and I fixed a lot of them from the original iPhone, but the time sink on a 4 made it uneconomical, infused to do then for £50 and would have it done I. 15 minutes. The 4 had to be disassembled entirely and reassembled, and you couldn't check the screen until it was all back together, loose connection, bad part, tough, disassemble/reassemble
  - vouaobrasil 4y ago
    I like extended software updates NOT for the price, but because I don't create as much e-waste buying 2 phones instead of 1.
  - Toutouxc 4y ago
    > Combined with apples policy of throttling older devices What policy are you talking about?
    - 4y ago
bitwize 4y ago
Apple is just built different as a tech company. Even with the limitations their products are vastly, vastly better than the alternatives. It is literally impossible, for example, to get a smartphone from another vendor anywhere near as powerful as the latest iPhone. So people buy iPhones and deal with or work around the limitations.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Their limitations are features in many ways. I don’t need to run a web server on my iPad, but I’m glad that shitty apps can’t be always running wasting battery to provide advert notifications like they used to on android.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    That's fine and well, but it's still not a justification for taking the option away from other users.
    - Gigachad 4y ago
      I don’t need a justification for other peoples use cases. The device does exactly what I want so I bought it. If I waned a device I could run webservers on, I’d buy something else. If they changed the advertised capabilities after purchase, that would be different.
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        The device does exactly what I want too, except Apple directly prevents me from loading the code that I want to run on-device. > If they changed the advertised capabilities after purchase, that would be different. The suggestion I'm making does not remove any advertised capabilities. There is no 'difference' to speak of. Again, nobody has given a concrete reason why the things that I want stop you from getting what you want.
    - bitwize 4y ago
      Having a long battery life sells more iPads than being infinitely hackable.
makeitdouble 4y ago
Imagine having a 0 to 100 scale of how much we value the device. Some of us are somewhere around 70 or 80 for the mac laptops, and 50 for iPads. That’s why you’ll hear very critical takes while people might still be buying the device. Also I’m of the opinion that buying something shouldn’t mean closing ones eyes about its flaws or being lucid on what you hate about it. The “voting with your wallet” thing is to me just a meme that want the world to look more simple than it is, except if you’re actually donating to lobbies to bribe politicians. To take another example, I would understand someone buying iPhones while completely hating Apple’s attitude toward developers and consumers in general, the world is just that complicated.
- judge2020 4y ago
  Even so, this just goes back to the question of "why does Apple get 30% of each transaction", since artificially preventing people from sideloading Android is one of the main ways they achieve all of their goals: 30% cut of video game IAPs, security in the face of evil maid attacks, and maintaining their brand image (since people might still blame Apple for Android running slow/having short battery life on iPhone hardware). All of this is because iPhone is a product, not a general purpose computer that you can do anything on, and this philosophy is the reason iPhone "just works", while everyone has seen some windows laptop running slow due to McAfee or Norton Antivirus bloatware, or infested with adware and 100 shell extensions. Even Macs are more likely to have malware since you have the choice to install whatever you want, while the furthest iOS malware can go is excessive tracking to third parties (the xcode virus/the Life360 app); you won't find adware that infects every app or uses your phone as a botnet zombie.
  - h4waii 4y ago
    Apple has paid out about $20 million dollars in their security bounty program, and a good portion of that must be iOS-related, so much so that they offer dedicated iOS devices to researchers. iPhones have been jailbroken by visiting a webpage, receiving a message, or joining a WiFi network. Just about every single iOS release is patching a vuln that was reported or found in the wild being exploited. So, really, is the "furthest iOS malware" concern being 3rd party tracking a genuine statement?
achairapart 4y ago
MacOS doesn't support touch, at all. The day Apple will release a MacOS version with touch support that runs on iPads, most of the Macbook line-up will likely cease to exist. While this may still happen one day, to this day Apple is already very happy to sell the current iPad to mostly buyers, not users, who may even be scared of the many buttons and windows of a full featured operating system on their limited but intuitive and easy-to-use device.
- xattt 4y ago
  The modBook, released for the last decade, would like to have a word with you.
  - achairapart 4y ago
    Again, Pen != touch. I actually use a 10-points touch enabled monitor with macOS (because reasons...), it needs aftermarket drivers[0]. And even with them the macOS UI is not touch nor multi-touch ready. And it seems there are no plans yet for it[1]. [0]: https://www.touch-base.com/ https://www.touch-base.com/ [1]: https://www.macobserver.com/news/craig-federighi-no-touchscreen-mac/ https://www.macobserver.com/news/craig-federighi-no-touchscr...
- sgjohnson 4y ago
  MacOS supports touch. Natively. Try using an iPad as an external display on a Mac using Sidecar. It will accept Apple Pencil input.
  - achairapart 4y ago
    The pencil, unlike fingers, is an accurate pointer device, like the mouse cursor.
  - justsomehnguy 4y ago
    This is not a touch input. This is a pen input.
yafbum 4y ago
The sentence starting with "if only" doesn't sound like it's being made as a good faith argument. Within its form factor, the iPad is still, in spite of its limitations, an obvious leader.
turndown 4y ago
- Best of all options - … if more are needed, the pen and especially the keyboard are genius. - I have grown more distrustful of what Google actually does than what Apple might That all said, I can’t think of other devices that are so intentionally limited as the iPad(Pro) really is. Maybe a powerful sports car with a governor in it? Most devices are designed to meet a certain usage profile, but the iPad is unique in that there is so much left on the table in so many ways. I would be overjoyed if I knew one day I could load up an actual OS on to this amazing thing.
magic_hamster 4y ago
They might not have known which chipset is in the device when they got it. It sounds like something you'd find out later own and look into expanding the device's usability, only to get disappointed because (surprise) it's Apple.

empyrrhicist 4y ago

I would have assumed form factor...

pessimizer 4y ago

Apple doesn't hear when you don't buy an iPad, so it's a strange signal.

smoldesu 4y ago

> If only there was a way to signal to Apple that you do not like artificial limitations In Europe they call it legislation!

pjmlp 4y ago
In Europe, most people give money to Google instead.

wahnfrieden 4y ago

Building the world you want to see via individual purchasing decisions is an extremely neoliberal (whether lib or con) notion.

rtpg 4y ago

Perhaps there are things that they like about the tool and that work well enough in iOS. There is no line item veto on signaling liking or disliking a thing overall. It is possible to (for example) dislike locked down systems but like having a tablet that works well for normal purposes, and for that balance to end up with a purchase. People like to act like buying a thing with properties they don't like is something only rubes do, but everyone does this all the time. It's perfectly reasonable to want things to be better without actively boycotting something that is merely mediocre!

atkailash 4y ago

One can simultaneously find practicality in a device in its current state while also recognizing its flaws or obvious potential. It’s not an all or nothing situation.

alex7734 4y ago

Every non-PC device nowadays has artificial limitations.

mattigames 4y ago

A MacBook is my main development computer but is because is the one the company I work for gave me, they didn't let me pick or anything, I would have never picked it over a Windows alternative, still I like to talk about the things and dislike and the few I like about it. In general good idea to not in mediately assume that just because you are an user of something you were the one that bought it or chose it.

devwastaken 4y ago

Wallet voting doesn't change patent or copyrights. Doesn't change political influence, and certainly doesn't change the market. That's a lie made up so people think they have some control of big essential corps. Microsoft, or Apple or any other big names are essential services. They will do whatever they want, and you have to buy it eventually. The decisions are made by execs whom don't associate with consumers like you or I. Any time Apple makes a change, it's not because they read feedback. It's because of the whims of big wigs at apple. And apple hands down makes the best tech. By being born you're in the game, and to compete you need what the other guy is competing with.

ls15 4y ago

Because there are things that only work on an iPad, such as accessing the high quality touch-enabled audio/music apps that only run on iOS. Most app makers simply don't create them for Android. I think it is an awesome product, but that does not mean that I am against Apple being forced to open up their walled garden. Voting with my wallet does not always help.