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Apple are trying to please two separate groups: - people who use “proper” cameras and thus have expectations about what a photo should look like - people who

by muglug 4y ago

Apple are trying to please two separate groups: - people who use “proper” cameras and thus have expectations about what a photo should look like - people who want iPhone photos to reflect how they perceive the scene. The iPhone camera app is configured for the second group, as it probably should be, but as a member of the first group I’d love an opt out button (without having to shoot in raw).

Espressosaurus 4y ago
I don't think they're trying to please the first group at all. Iphone pictures come fried to hell, but since that's what people want, that's what we get.
bredren 4y ago
Apple provides some customization of the default photo processing via “photographic styles.” There are several presets which can be further tweaked but only using two controls: warmth and contrast. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph939c00e95/ios https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph939c00e95/io... That’s not too bad for the oob default camera app. I think it shows some awareness that how Apple is processing in the “standard” style may not match what everyone wants. IIUC, Halide and other 3rd party camera apps can largely deliver on further post processing customization of non-raw photos. Presumably these apps start with a RAW image in capture though and only pipeline it down to some save as some smaller, processed image.
pbhjpbhj 4y ago
>want iPhone photos to reflect how they perceive the scene. // It seems more about how people wish they perceived the scene. Like, over-saturated and with "beautification" filters; there's a recognition that this is not how the image maker [the person] actually perceives things. It's a dream of reality, a fairy tale. Honestly, some Facebook photos ... all people on my Facebook are people I know in person, the filters some use are frankly ridiculous; like, I know what you actually look like and it's not a manga cartoon with massive eyes and completely smooth skin. /rant
lamontcg 4y ago
There's actually three separate categories of people: - People who just don't care and use the default photo app - People who are looking for more professional results and use an app like Halide - People who enjoy being angry on the internet more than taking pictures
webmobdev 4y ago
The problem with Apple has always been about relinquishing control to the user - they have a tunnel vision about finding an "Apple way" of doing something, sticking with it obstinately and not caring about power-users.

by muglug 4y ago

Espressosaurus 4y ago

I don't think they're trying to please the first group at all. Iphone pictures come fried to hell, but since that's what people want, that's what we get.

bredren 4y ago

Apple provides some customization of the default photo processing via “photographic styles.” There are several presets which can be further tweaked but only using two controls: warmth and contrast. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph939c00e95/ios https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph939c00e95/io... That’s not too bad for the oob default camera app. I think it shows some awareness that how Apple is processing in the “standard” style may not match what everyone wants. IIUC, Halide and other 3rd party camera apps can largely deliver on further post processing customization of non-raw photos. Presumably these apps start with a RAW image in capture though and only pipeline it down to some save as some smaller, processed image.

pbhjpbhj 4y ago

>want iPhone photos to reflect how they perceive the scene. // It seems more about how people wish they perceived the scene. Like, over-saturated and with "beautification" filters; there's a recognition that this is not how the image maker [the person] actually perceives things. It's a dream of reality, a fairy tale. Honestly, some Facebook photos ... all people on my Facebook are people I know in person, the filters some use are frankly ridiculous; like, I know what you actually look like and it's not a manga cartoon with massive eyes and completely smooth skin. /rant

lamontcg 4y ago

There's actually three separate categories of people: - People who just don't care and use the default photo app - People who are looking for more professional results and use an app like Halide - People who enjoy being angry on the internet more than taking pictures

webmobdev 4y ago

The problem with Apple has always been about relinquishing control to the user - they have a tunnel vision about finding an "Apple way" of doing something, sticking with it obstinately and not caring about power-users.