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Every camera and software pipeline for a photograph alters the raw images. You're just more aware of it. The iPhone can shoot raw and avoid these issues, it's
by photoGrant 4y ago
Every camera and software pipeline for a photograph alters the raw images. You're just more aware of it.
The iPhone can shoot raw and avoid these issues, it's how I use mine. The complaints people would have if the iPhone didn't post-process for the average consumer... Every camera phone I've ever used has horrible defaults for JPG processing -- avoid it by shooting raw and using something like Darkroom to finesse.
- tomxor 4y ago> Every camera and software pipeline for a photograph alters the raw images. You're just more aware of it. No, you use a half decent professional camera and you can even opt for RAW format, the only processing your getting is the averaging algorithm for your exposure and ISO settings. Even without that all you are getting is some JPG compression, not half baked ML trying to move people's faces around, that's bonkers. Also pretty sure you are not getting RAW on any phone unless you are running some very custom OS/software, even then seems pretty pointless considering how noisy it's going to be.
- photoGrant 4y agoSorry, your no is a little confident -- and you're entirely wrong. A camera generating a RAW file for you is doing much more than just sending you the data from the binned pixels. Where you want to step in on that line determines how much control you have. It's the reason some still pick RED vs Alexa. Your RAW File & Colour Science aren't just up to you, they're carefully mastered with an ODT -- On Device Transform. Also, let's see how Nikon go in the near future with Snapdragon. These images are 90% shot on iPhone -- raw and edited in Darkroom on iOS. https://instagram.com/grant.pal https://instagram.com/grant.pal
- shiftpgdn 4y agoMy Sigma FP isn’t using a deep learning model to enhance the image like an iPhone is (in iPhones case, deep field has added faces to photos, and all sort of other crazy stuff.) It’s dishonest to try compare color profiles with AI image manipulation .
- photoGrant 4y agoMy Canon is for autofocus.
- epgui 4y agoOh hi Grant! I didn't know you read HN! Hahaha.
- tomxor 4y agoWhat is your point? are you merely trying to argue your original comment was somehow correct based on a technicality? Sure I forgot about colour correction, congrats... It's pretty absurd to argue uniform pixel data manipulation for colour processing is somehow comparable to ML based full image manipulation. One is for the purpose of trying to improve accuracy, the other is doing the exact opposite.
- photoGrant 4y agoIt’s a technical discussion, sorry.
- tomxor 4y agoI appreciate technically accurate, we all do that's why were here - I might suggest a little more context awareness though, lest you miss the point. Tangents are also fun, just not like this: > and you're entirely wrong But i'm not perfect either: I was being pushy in the tone of my previous comments.. I was focused on the high level differences but too impatient in my delivery - Had I been more nuanced and respectful you might have been more receptive to it, sorry.