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Guitar Effects Guidebook, Vol. 20 [pdf]
- riley_dog 4y agoThe *Boss Guitar Effects Guidebook, Vol. 20
- ilyt 4y ago*and countless clones
- l33tman 4y agoI gladly recommend Alex Ball's high quality free documentary on youtube about Roland. It's not guitar-effect focused (mostly the synths and drum machines) but it shows the many branches of Roland's products over the years. https://youtu.be/JcbpRMZIQ8g https://youtu.be/JcbpRMZIQ8g
- slater- 4y agothe RC loop pedals changed my life. do you play an instrument with an output? GET A LOOP PEDAL YESTERDAY. practicing electric guitar without a loop pedal is like building a website without live server.
- weinzierl 4y agoI don't play guitar, but keys and live looping is incredible fun. I do it in my DAW (Reaper) though and I'm not satisfied with the ease of use but also don't want to have another pedal lying around. Does anyone know a working software solution that just mimics a basic pedal? Should also be trustworthy, I'm hesitant to install random free VSTs.
- mr_sturd 4y agoWould you be looking for a MIDI control pedal which could be assigned to the record command in the DAW?
- jerpint 4y agoDo you know how to do this? Also what would be the best software for live looping?
- mr_sturd 4y agoI'm just getting started exploring with exploring DAWs myself and haven't looked at live looping yet. You'd want some sort of MIDI controller for it, and I understand there's hardware for recording samples and MIDI if you don't want to use a DAW.
- tanseydavid 4y agoBe sure to look around on YouTube to see what people are accomplishing with Ableton Live for live looping.
- sixdimensional 4y agoAbleton has an actual looper plug-in it comes with that works just like a pedal, in addition to Session View, which is looping on steroids and one of the key features of it. I'm just somebody who has used it a lot, not associated to Ableton in any way. Another popular DAW for loop-based recording is FL Studio (a little less expensive than Ableton with lifetime free updates and plenty powerful). Also a longtime user of FL.
- cooldrcool3 4y agoI'm not an expert at recording but in my experience trying to do anything live with a DAW is next to impossible due to latency issues. It would probably just be easier to record into the daw then spend a few seconds in the gui to loop it properly.
- slater- 4y agoyes. for this reason (and because screens are lame), i would just get a pedal.
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- brudgers 4y agoBoss has desktop loopers in the RC lineup, now. The guide in the link is more than a decade. There’s the RC202 and RC505. Not that you can’t put a peddle on a desk and use your hands if the switch design doesn’t actually require a stomp.
- sixdimensional 4y agoRC505 is definitely the gold standard for standalone desktop looping (5 tracks) that are suitable for hand operation. The 202 is just a less expensive 2 track. There are other hardware options, like Aeros loop studio or even things like Akai MPC One, for example, but these get more complex than just a simple looper. There are basic looper pedals but I suspect most people want something like an RC202 or RC505 for basic but multitrack simple live looping.
- kitotik 4y agoWhile definitely not basic, Sooperlooper[0] is a fantastic opensource clone of the old Echoplex hardware. [0] https://sonosaurus.com/sooperlooper/ https://sonosaurus.com/sooperlooper/
- phkahler 4y agoI've always been interested in trying to code guitar effects. Just over the break I submitted an 8-band EQ to OBS studio that has yet to be merged. That got me thinking about doing more, but I don't know what the best environment to code for is.
- erik_p 4y agoWouldn't that environment be VST?
- InCityDreams 4y agoLook up wusik stuff - pretty sure the guy has what you need. And, it might be $1 at the moment.
- InCityDreams 4y agoInstalling random free VSTs is a great deal of half the fun. Here's nine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzf38fCqB4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzf38fCqB4 If I'm not mistaken, one he does miss out on is Synth1, but then that would be 10 free VST's, and also gives www.kvraudio.com a reason to exist. *The real problem is, people writing crappy VSTs and installing bits of crud all over my PC (and that inclludes DAW software writers), but hey,that's why backups and rollbacks exist, I guess. To specifically answer your question "Does anyone know a working software solution that just mimics a basic pedal?" - which particular pedal? The software you may be hesitant to install may have the answer you require: I've found software that sounds better than the pedals they emulate, but aren't as easy to control (with a mouse), and are equally at the mercy of a DAW crash (looking at you Steinberg :-).
- sixdimensional 4y agoThere is also an iOS app called Loopy HD which is pretty simple and cheap, if you have the Apple audio input adapter cable.
- mhh__ 4y agoBuy Ableton or Bitwig
- Blackthorn 4y agoSeems like most pedals should be handled by reaper's built in effect plugins, no?
- ilyt 4y agoHell, even just long echo allows for some funkiness
- amelius 4y agoAll those cables are a hassle and the electronics are a bit like cheating (edit: for lack of a better word). I want an instrument with the effects built-in, physically, mechanically. Unfortunately, it seems to be sort of a lost artform.
- jcpst 4y agoCheating? Trying to understand- is using signal processing “cheating”? What is cheating in music? All I can think of is deception, like lip-syncing.
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- analog31 4y agoNot lost at all. Acoustic music is alive and well. An interesting thing about the arts is that nothing ever become obsolete. Instead, the new just moves in next door to the old, and both coexist. Whether you prefer electronic or acoustic just comes down to personal preference. I still play alcohol powered instruments (double bass, cello), and ride an acoustic bicycle, though my friends badger me about when I'll switch to electric.
- sixdimensional 4y agoA multieffect pedal is an option, or, a device like an MPC one which has tons of AIR digital effects.
- utopcell 4y agoThere are a bunch of offerings like that. The GTRS S800 guitars come to mind. If you want to keep your own guitar, the BOSS Waza Air headphones are completely hassle - free.
- mentos 4y agoI've wanted to get a looping pedal but at $100+ I've hesitated because I'd rather just get an adapter to plug my guitar into my PC and simulate pedals in software than spend $100 for every pedal I need. From my research an iRig2 is what I should get but open to any suggestions?
- brudgers 4y agoIf you are a little patient, you can pick up an Avid mBox3 for ~$50 including shipping off eBay or Reverb (mine was $30). They are USB class compliant, built solid, and have high quality electronics consistent with a $500 price when new...two mic preamps with 70db gain for ribbon mics. They also do direct input and have additional jacks on the front...you could spend a lot more and do worse on an audio interface. [1] Avid is a high end company. But of course, I am advocating used gear. [1]: Also makes a pretty good headphone pre-amp that just needs USB power (like from a power brick).
- rograndom 4y agoThere's $20-30 looper pedals on Amazon and Ali Express that do the job just fine. Most any USB audio interface will have an "instrument" input/mode that will allow you to plug directly in and will work with Mac/Windows/Linux directly with low latency. Most of the come with some software bundles as well with free amp and pedal models.
- jcpst 4y agoI’ve been jamming with a drummer for years, just the two of us. A few months back he says “I had this looper in my closet”. I laid down a bass guitar loop, he started grooving over it, then I pulled out my guitar and all of a sudden we were sounding like a power trio. It blew me away.
- mr_sturd 4y agoHaven't had much of a chance to play with Boss pedals, myself. I have a couple of Behringer "knock offs", along with other effects pedals. Such a dizzying array of options and sounds to be discovered when they're chained together; and I can happily spend hours down the rabbit hole looking for tunes that compliment the distortions that have been twiddled up!
- jasonladuke0311 4y agoWow thank you for this, as a noob I was combing through the Boss Katana manual last night trying to understand what the hell everything does.
- Schattenbaer 4y agoIf you want a delightful hobby, then I can recommend building your own guitar pedals. It combines music, electronics, general nerding out (e.g. debating germanium VS silicon diodes), and some visual design if you want to make the enclosures pretty. You might even be able to sell some. I started by building a kit pedal with one of my kids as a weekend project. Some search terms to get you started: build your own clone, diy pedal schematics, tag board music effects.
- ilyt 4y agoModular synths are similar in that way, except way less popular so more expensive on both kits and ready-made stuff.
- jcpst 4y agoI was able to get into modular in college with the synthesizers.com monthly payment plan. Each installment you paid, they mailed another module. They start you out with a few modules and a rack with a power supply mounted for you. The whole plan together gave you a bit of a deal on the cost. It doesn’t look like they offer that anymore, but you could still do the same thing yourself. If I was starting over, I’d probably do eurorack, that seems to be where all the modern innovation is.
- InCityDreams 4y agoVCV rack - software: https://www.factmag.com/2017/09/12/vcv-rack-open-source-virtual-modular-synth/ https://www.factmag.com/2017/09/12/vcv-rack-open-source-virt...
- mr_sturd 4y agoThere's also Cardinal, which is essentially VCV Rack but provides free and open source plugins. https://github.com/DISTRHO/Cardinal https://github.com/DISTRHO/Cardinal
- timc3 4y agoDoesn’t really combine those things the GP is talking about. I have VCV installed but never use it because I have a large modular system - the hardware is just so much more fun.
- roblh 4y agoAs a gigging musician, it’s blown my mind how far digital effects have come, specifically amps and pedals. For years I had a fairly extensive collection of pedals, which has now been almost completely replaced by a Line 6 helix pedal that does absolutely everything. People are never gonna stop using analog pedals cause they’re a ton of fun, but from a purely practical perspective, we’re finally at the point where modelling really is indistinguishable from the real thing.
- sickcodebruh 4y agoSame! I recently acquired a Fractal FM3, the most basic floor version of their Axe FX3, and it won me over very quickly. I’ve been a tube amp purist for many years but this thing sounds so good and simplified my live and recording workflows dramatically. Even without its magically incredible effects, it was amazing, but I was blown away when I started digging deeper.
- krat0sprakhar 4y agoAcquired the Fractal FM3 last month as well and it has been amazing. So much to explore and learn! I really feel this is easily the best time to be guitar player. So much awesome gear that is easily accessible. I love it!
- jimnotgym 4y ago> I really feel this is easily the best time to be guitar player. I tell you what I'll trade you the gear for the chance to play the Marquis club in the 60's! There was so much to learn about what guitars could do back then.
- eweise 4y agoI don't know. I just listened to some it examples on the web and the cleanish sounds still don't match the sound of a real amp to my ears. Although if was in a cover band, I'd definitely use one since it can cover so many different sounds.
- peteforde 4y agoWhile this is an interesting deep dive into Boss pedals, anyone interested in pedals hasn't been looking to Boss for innovation for decades. Programmable DSPs have led to the rise of innovators such as Chase Bliss, Meris, Hologram Electronics, Fairfield Circuitry and Empress releasing tools in a pedal form-factor that are northern Thai street food compared to Boss' Whopper Junior. If you're interested, I recommend Knobs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_BLyPxShG4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_BLyPxShG4
- mr_sturd 4y agoI ended up on a YouTube tangent a few days ago looking at Hologram's Microcosm. That pedal looks like a lot of fun.
- peteforde 4y agoIt is fun. A game-changer, and relatively/subjectively affordable.
- peteforde 4y agoRecommended for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kaqk1wR3SM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kaqk1wR3SM
- lambdas 4y agoI’d be cautious. I’ve had two friends who bought it, were let down, sold it, thought maybe they weren’t using it right, bought it again, then sold it again. It’s opinionated granulated synthethesis; it’s a good way to get that sound but if you find yourself not liking something about the sound, tough luck tweaking it.
- kij 4y agohttps://guitarix.org/ https://guitarix.org/ is a software amp & f/x. It's been a savior for headphone only guitar playing.
- RomanPushkin 4y agoI bought Quad Cortex quite some time ago, and I don't need amps and pedals anymore. Moreover, sold my over 20 pedal collection and stuff. I highly recommend Quad Cortex, the setup is so much easier now, without sacrificing quality. (amateur guitar player with 20 years amateur experience)
- wtf_is_up 4y agoThe digital stuff is etremely good these days, but it just doesn't do it for me. I have a Kemper with profiles of every amp under the sun but I still enjoy using my tube amps and pedals more. But yeah, Kemper, Quad Cortex, AxeFX, etc are hard to beat values if you don't mind fiddling.
- eggsmediumrare 4y agoRecording an album is a totally different experience with a Kemper. No more anxiety about how the tones will sit in the mix... If it's not working, you can re-amp it.
- Wolfenstein98k 4y agoThat is the case with any DI recording though, you can re-amp with analog amps. That has been Andy Sneap's workflow for decades.
- eggsmediumrare 4y agoYeah, it's just a hassle if you're on a budget and don't want to spend the engineer's time on it.
- zgniatacz 4y agoThomann Stompenberg FX https://www.thomann.de/gb/guitar_and_bass_effects.html https://www.thomann.de/gb/guitar_and_bass_effects.html
- realworldperson 4y ago[dead]