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Don’t ever take on organizational problems. You are working at a company. The company is a sociopath. You have to act accordingly.

shawnz 4y ago
And if that sociopath is offering you money to take on those organizational problems, what's the according act in that case?
- H8crilA 4y ago
  Put the money in a nice pile and see if it stacks higher than the organizational shit you'll be dealing with. It's a maths problem.
groby_b 4y ago
"The company" is nothing, except what leadership makes it. As a manager, that includes you. If everybody chooses not to care about org problems? Guess what, that's a manifestation of sociopathic behavior. So, act accordingly.
- sleight42 4y ago
  This person gets it. If everyone is in it solely for themselves, that's sociopathic. Companies function better when lubricated with some compassion.
- mansoon 4y ago
  Act in accordance with your organizational culture and values. If everyone's out for themselves and you act selflessly, you _will_ get hurt. Mental health issues are for life. It's not worth the risk.
  - groby_b 4y ago
    Where do you think values and cultures come from, if they aren't set and reinforced by managers? Yes, there are degrees to this - a frontline manager at FAANG has a lot less power to shape than a VP at a 100 person company. But you have the power to shape, to some extent. And you are the person people on your team will look to for cues. Which means it's a question how big the gap is. If you can cover it with team-local culture, by all means, straddle it. But trust me, if you completely abandon your values, your mental health won't do well either. I'd suggest that a severe/unfixable values mismatch should trigger a job search on your part, because acting out values that contradict yours rarely ends well for your health.
reese_john 4y ago
A company is not a single entity. Your experience can be very different depending on your team, manager and department.
- notyourwork 4y ago
  The experience only differs because of how much or little you are sheltered from reality of the inter-organization politics.
  - SpicyLemonZest 4y ago
    "Sheltered from the reality of inter-organization politics" is a pretty wide bucket. I've been on teams that constantly fight with each other to get resources and executive attention, and I've been on teams that collaborate with each other to make the best decisions taking into account everyone's constraints and capabilities. In my experience there's a huge qualitative difference that doesn't have much to do with hiding or disguising anything.
mcrad 4y ago
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shawnz 4y ago

And if that sociopath is offering you money to take on those organizational problems, what's the according act in that case?

H8crilA 4y ago
Put the money in a nice pile and see if it stacks higher than the organizational shit you'll be dealing with. It's a maths problem.

groby_b 4y ago

"The company" is nothing, except what leadership makes it. As a manager, that includes you. If everybody chooses not to care about org problems? Guess what, that's a manifestation of sociopathic behavior. So, act accordingly.

sleight42 4y ago
This person gets it. If everyone is in it solely for themselves, that's sociopathic. Companies function better when lubricated with some compassion.
mansoon 4y ago
Act in accordance with your organizational culture and values. If everyone's out for themselves and you act selflessly, you _will_ get hurt. Mental health issues are for life. It's not worth the risk.
- groby_b 4y ago
  Where do you think values and cultures come from, if they aren't set and reinforced by managers? Yes, there are degrees to this - a frontline manager at FAANG has a lot less power to shape than a VP at a 100 person company. But you have the power to shape, to some extent. And you are the person people on your team will look to for cues. Which means it's a question how big the gap is. If you can cover it with team-local culture, by all means, straddle it. But trust me, if you completely abandon your values, your mental health won't do well either. I'd suggest that a severe/unfixable values mismatch should trigger a job search on your part, because acting out values that contradict yours rarely ends well for your health.

reese_john 4y ago

A company is not a single entity. Your experience can be very different depending on your team, manager and department.

notyourwork 4y ago
The experience only differs because of how much or little you are sheltered from reality of the inter-organization politics.
- SpicyLemonZest 4y ago
  "Sheltered from the reality of inter-organization politics" is a pretty wide bucket. I've been on teams that constantly fight with each other to get resources and executive attention, and I've been on teams that collaborate with each other to make the best decisions taking into account everyone's constraints and capabilities. In my experience there's a huge qualitative difference that doesn't have much to do with hiding or disguising anything.

mcrad 4y ago

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