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> acquire that goodwill and monetize it Embrace Extend <-- here Extinguish
by aliqot 4y ago
> acquire that goodwill and monetize it
Embrace
Extend <-- here
Extinguish
- fluoridation 4y agoThat's not what EEE refers to. "Embrace" does not mean "buy".
- jrm4 4y agoIt can, I think. The EEE concept is useful enough to go slightly outside its original intended use.
- fluoridation 4y agoSo the idea here is 1. Acquire company for tens of billions. 2. Intentionally ruin own investment. 3. ??? 4. PROFIT! ?
- jrm4 4y agoThere are a lot of less-than-optimal possible outcomes between "create the best possible free open source library" and "utterly ruin."
- robertlagrant 4y agoWell. 1. Acquire company for $7.5bn in stock, so fortunes are joined rather than cash paid 2. Still charge money for it 3. Create an AI product out of the open source bit of it, justifying the price tag, as well as build links to Microsoft dev tools to entice OSS back into the Microsoft ecosystem 4. Maybe profit, but almost certainly not loss
- Dylan16807 4y agoUh, what's the extend that has happened since microsoft bought github? Do you mean copilot? I would not classify that as extending anything. It's just a thing they made. "Monetizing goodwill" is not an extend.
- turtleyacht 4y ago> Microsoft <heart> Open Source
- jrm4 4y agoOf course that's "extending." It's a very clever attack on open source generally.
- Dylan16807 4y agoBut it's not open source specific. Not in creation and definitely not in use. And the idea of the extend of EEE applying to all of open source at once, the way you could apply to a product or a standard or a protocol, doesn't really make sense.
- jrm4 4y agoYou're thinking way too narrowly. EEE doesn't require a specific plan -- if you look at the history of Microsoft engaging in EEE, you can see it's been much more experimental than you're suggesting. It's basically Microsoft saying "Here is a thing that looks like it might in some way eventually be a threat to our business model and/or we can make some money off of it -- let's get our hooks in now and see what happens, we have the money to do it."
- Dylan16807 4y agoBut again, copilot does not get their hooks into open source any more than it gets their hooks into code in general. And they're not doing EEE against "code". EEE doesn't need a specific plan but it does need some kind of target standard. Getting into an emerging market, without specific kinds of integration or malfeasance, is just competition.