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> It is also why other desktop environments, like Plasma, still exist. They are designed to be user-centric and powerful. GNOME, on the other hand, is designed

> It is also why other desktop environments, like Plasma, still exist. They are designed to be user-centric and powerful. GNOME, on the other hand, is designed to be user-friendly. Since you brought up KDE. This is many reasons why I like KDE - they seem to value interoperability over exclusiveness. Also, leave the user in control. GNOME removes control from me. As seen in their HIG[0], "Provide sensible defaults but consider optional functionality and customization options that don't interfere with the primary task." From another comment: > maybe because GNOME unlike most big OSS projects has people going into issue tracker of other software and asking them to do things specifically for accomodating GNOME This is a pattern I dislike seeing. GNOME is fracturing the community by forcing their own way, or the highway. [0] https://develop.kde.org/hig/ https://develop.kde.org/hig/

jmnicolas 4y ago
On the other hand KDE isn't very pretty and is a bit unstable. But Dolphin is the only file manager that I can tolerate and last time I tried Gnome (43 on Fedora 37 beta) it couldn't handle switching of my second monitor (it made a mess of my virtual desktops). Honestly Gnome isn't bad, you just have to adapt your workflow: instead of putting apps to the foreground by clicking on them in the taskbar just use a virtual desktop for the different activities.
- deafpolygon 4y ago
  KDE looks good (the current version does, at least). It _is_ a bit stable, though. Dolpin is excellent as a file manager. Nautilus was terrible when they introduced it. It's still terrible. I don't like how GNOME handles multiple desktops. I can get very close to i3 with KDE, support for shortcuts and customization, and virtual desktops, but have a still full DE to go with it.
  - shrimp_emoji 4y ago
    >Dolpin is excellent as a file manager. Nautilus was terrible when they introduced it. It's still terrible. Like most GTK apps, Nautilus feels like a toy app. Dolphin feels like a better app than what you have in any other OS. Most of the best Linux apps seem like they're Qt, and that's because GTK is increasingly terrible to work with. The next runner up file manager to Dolphin, PCManFM, switched from GTK to Qt[0]: ``` Hong Jen Yee, developer of LXDE (the GTK version of which was dropped and all efforts focused on the Qt port), expressed disdain for version 3 of the GTK toolkit's radical API changes and increased memory usage, and ported PCMan File Manager (PCManFM) to Qt. PCManFM is being developed with a GTK and with a Qt backend at the same time. ``` 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK#Criticism

jmnicolas 4y ago

On the other hand KDE isn't very pretty and is a bit unstable. But Dolphin is the only file manager that I can tolerate and last time I tried Gnome (43 on Fedora 37 beta) it couldn't handle switching of my second monitor (it made a mess of my virtual desktops). Honestly Gnome isn't bad, you just have to adapt your workflow: instead of putting apps to the foreground by clicking on them in the taskbar just use a virtual desktop for the different activities.

deafpolygon 4y ago
KDE looks good (the current version does, at least). It _is_ a bit stable, though. Dolpin is excellent as a file manager. Nautilus was terrible when they introduced it. It's still terrible. I don't like how GNOME handles multiple desktops. I can get very close to i3 with KDE, support for shortcuts and customization, and virtual desktops, but have a still full DE to go with it.
- shrimp_emoji 4y ago
  >Dolpin is excellent as a file manager. Nautilus was terrible when they introduced it. It's still terrible. Like most GTK apps, Nautilus feels like a toy app. Dolphin feels like a better app than what you have in any other OS. Most of the best Linux apps seem like they're Qt, and that's because GTK is increasingly terrible to work with. The next runner up file manager to Dolphin, PCManFM, switched from GTK to Qt[0]: ``` Hong Jen Yee, developer of LXDE (the GTK version of which was dropped and all efforts focused on the Qt port), expressed disdain for version 3 of the GTK toolkit's radical API changes and increased memory usage, and ported PCMan File Manager (PCManFM) to Qt. PCManFM is being developed with a GTK and with a Qt backend at the same time. ``` 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK#Criticism