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Where are you finding small wage plumbers or carpenters? All the trades here (plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry (perhaps more on the finish side vs framing

by modoc 4y ago

Where are you finding small wage plumbers or carpenters? All the trades here (plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry (perhaps more on the finish side vs framing though) are extremely expensive, with hourly rates between $80-$150/hour. (source - did a lot of renovations on my house, and my BIL is an electrician).

berkle4455 4y ago
Wages of an employee versus hourly labor rates a customer pays are vastly different things.
UncleMeat 4y ago
The laborer isn't seeing 100% of that bill.
Adraghast 4y ago
The median annual wage for electricians was $60,040 in May 2021. The median wage is the wage at which half the workers in an occupation earned more than that amount and half earned less. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $37,020, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $99,800.
- newaccount2021 4y ago
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Ekaros 4y ago
And how many billable hours there are on average in a month? Does the rate include tools or some of the materials?
orwin 4y ago
I mean, carpentry is really cheap here and not at all comparable to the other trades, and i know it's worse in the US.
nibbleshifter 4y ago
Lol, the tradesman isn't taking that home. Neither is the apprentice that probably is doing half the work.
- peruvian 4y ago
  It's insane how uninformed all the "tell your kids to get into the trades!" techies are.
- modoc 4y ago
  I'm mostly using small companies where it's the owner and maybe his son or 1-2 employees doing the work. Likewise my BIL has his own company that's just him and his best friend. So yeah those guys are all taking 100% of the rate. Granted they have to pay taxes and insurance, and all that like I do, but they're doing well overall.
- com2kid 4y ago
  Neighbor was getting his deck painted a few months ago. Talked to the guy doing the painting, he was getting $80/hr. (Related: IMHO my neighbor sucks at finding affordable prices for painters!)

by modoc 4y ago

berkle4455 4y ago

Wages of an employee versus hourly labor rates a customer pays are vastly different things.

UncleMeat 4y ago

The laborer isn't seeing 100% of that bill.

Adraghast 4y ago

The median annual wage for electricians was $60,040 in May 2021. The median wage is the wage at which half the workers in an occupation earned more than that amount and half earned less. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $37,020, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $99,800.

newaccount2021 4y ago
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Ekaros 4y ago

And how many billable hours there are on average in a month? Does the rate include tools or some of the materials?

orwin 4y ago

I mean, carpentry is really cheap here and not at all comparable to the other trades, and i know it's worse in the US.

nibbleshifter 4y ago

Lol, the tradesman isn't taking that home. Neither is the apprentice that probably is doing half the work.

peruvian 4y ago
It's insane how uninformed all the "tell your kids to get into the trades!" techies are.
modoc 4y ago
I'm mostly using small companies where it's the owner and maybe his son or 1-2 employees doing the work. Likewise my BIL has his own company that's just him and his best friend. So yeah those guys are all taking 100% of the rate. Granted they have to pay taxes and insurance, and all that like I do, but they're doing well overall.
com2kid 4y ago
Neighbor was getting his deck painted a few months ago. Talked to the guy doing the painting, he was getting $80/hr. (Related: IMHO my neighbor sucks at finding affordable prices for painters!)