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/me sighs. I need to come up with an excuse to upgrade…

by db48x 4y ago

didgetmaster 4y ago
Same here. I just upgraded to a 5950X last year (I try to go at least 3 years between upgrades) but I am salivating already. I fully expected my data management software to be much faster on the new hardware since it uses multi-threading to make use of all those wonderful cores, but it blew me away just how fast it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVICKCkWMZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVICKCkWMZE I might have to bite the bullet later this year if the 7950X3D benchmarks look really good once it releases.
- yellow_lead 4y ago
  Nice demo. I use my 3950x for compiling our c++ project, and I'm pretty happy with the speeds when using all the threads as well.
- nevi-me 4y ago
  Imagine the 9950x, that can be a good reason to want to upgrade them. I'm on a 3900x and 2070 Super. I mostly reduced using the desktop when I got the M1 and M1 Pro devices. I now use it remotely from another room in the house. I'll hold out despite the temptations, and only update in 2-3 more years from now.
- _zoltan_ 4y ago
  I'm also on a 5950x and I need to find a reason to upgrade :))
- daemin 4y ago
  I'm on a 5950x as well but I'll be sticking with it for many years to come as it's still one of the most efficient chips out there - source: Gamer's Nexus benchmark videos.
ohgodplsno 4y ago
Here's an excuse not to upgrade: holy fuck it's horribly expensive these days.
- yellow_lead 4y ago
  If it's something you use for work, the time saved could be justified if you have to compile or do something CPU-heavy often
  - ohgodplsno 4y ago
    Unfortunately, it is hard, especially at an individual scale to say "I'm going to save up these $4000 over the next year and a half in productivity". Doubly so if you're just salaried and your pay will come, whether you use the shitty company laptop that takes 15 minutes to build or your crazy home rig. I'd love for me to be able to just run all my builds on full blast on a 24 core beast at home, but if your interests also include games, you're looking at multiple thousands just to upgrade. Needless to say, my apartment, family, vacations and a dozen other things are well above in the priority list.
    - wpm 4y ago
      I upgraded to an X670E platform back in October. CPU+Mobo+RAM ran me up to $750 with a bundle from Microcenter (essentially, I got the RAM for free), and I reused my case and power supply. To upgrade to a "24 core beast", as close as you can get with the 7000 series is the 7950X (16C/32T), which I can get on Amazon for $550, minus the aftermarket price for my 7700X (and possibly my old rig, which was a Z170 intel platform). Even if I kept my old processor, a top of the AMD line rig costs about $1250, memory capacity not withstanding. Of course, that says nothing about the additional electricity costs, and I understand that my prices are not obtainable in most of the world unfortunately, but I think $4000 is a stretch unless you needed a load of RAM (it'd be about $600 to max out my motherboard to 128GB).
      - ohgodplsno 4y ago
        Assuming you do not get deals: * $500 for a CPU (7800X starts at $450) * $60 for a cooler because the Wraith Prism is shit. * $200 for a motherboard, maybe $100 if you want to try to cheap out and get something that might have unstable voltages, shit PCIe bandwidth or no NVMe slots, etc. * $200 for 32GB of quality DDR5-4800 (or 5600 if you want to be fancy), and that's easily used up these days. * $200 for a quality 750W power supply * $100 for a case with good enough airflow, assuming you don't already have one. * $200+ for at least 1TB of NVMe storage, easily much more So, assuming a new build that didn't get incremental upgrades in the past, building a new, powerful PC these days is going to run you $1500. Without even picking any top of the line stuff. Guess what didn't get included in there ? GPUs with their bloody ridiculous prices. If you're going with NVidia, this 4000 generation is a waste if you're buying anything but the 4090. You could absolutely buy a 4080 (or rather a 4070Ti), or a 4070, but they're such a horrible deal in terms of price/performance. And that's going to cost you at the absolute least $800 (for a 4070, which is a dogshit card). Or you can try to find a series 3000, but that's also going to run you $1000+. If you're going with AMD, your problems are similar, for cards that are really subpar. As for Intel, well, let's just say an A770 with your high end CPU might cause a few bottlenecks here and there. So, yes, if you're lucky enough to find deals _and_ to have stuff that you can still use from an old, recent rig, sure, building a new PC isn't _that_ expensive. If you have to do major upgrades, you're looking at multiple thousands. Pulling that much money out in one go for something that is ultimately not extremely necessary is something that can only be afforded by a very small percentage of people.

/me sighs. I need to come up with an excuse to upgrade…

by db48x 4y ago

/me sighs. I need to come up with an excuse to upgrade…

Same here. I just upgraded to a 5950X last year (I try to go at least 3 years between upgrades) but I am salivating already. I fully expected my data management software to be much faster on the new hardware since it uses multi-threading to make use of all those wonderful cores, but it blew me away just how fast it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVICKCkWMZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVICKCkWMZE I might have to bite the bullet later this year if the 7950X3D benchmarks look really good once it releases.

yellow_lead 4y ago
Nice demo. I use my 3950x for compiling our c++ project, and I'm pretty happy with the speeds when using all the threads as well.
nevi-me 4y ago
Imagine the 9950x, that can be a good reason to want to upgrade them. I'm on a 3900x and 2070 Super. I mostly reduced using the desktop when I got the M1 and M1 Pro devices. I now use it remotely from another room in the house. I'll hold out despite the temptations, and only update in 2-3 more years from now.
_zoltan_ 4y ago
I'm also on a 5950x and I need to find a reason to upgrade :))
daemin 4y ago
I'm on a 5950x as well but I'll be sticking with it for many years to come as it's still one of the most efficient chips out there - source: Gamer's Nexus benchmark videos.

ohgodplsno 4y ago

Here's an excuse not to upgrade: holy fuck it's horribly expensive these days.

yellow_lead 4y ago
If it's something you use for work, the time saved could be justified if you have to compile or do something CPU-heavy often
- ohgodplsno 4y ago
  Unfortunately, it is hard, especially at an individual scale to say "I'm going to save up these $4000 over the next year and a half in productivity". Doubly so if you're just salaried and your pay will come, whether you use the shitty company laptop that takes 15 minutes to build or your crazy home rig. I'd love for me to be able to just run all my builds on full blast on a 24 core beast at home, but if your interests also include games, you're looking at multiple thousands just to upgrade. Needless to say, my apartment, family, vacations and a dozen other things are well above in the priority list.
  - wpm 4y ago
    I upgraded to an X670E platform back in October. CPU+Mobo+RAM ran me up to $750 with a bundle from Microcenter (essentially, I got the RAM for free), and I reused my case and power supply. To upgrade to a "24 core beast", as close as you can get with the 7000 series is the 7950X (16C/32T), which I can get on Amazon for $550, minus the aftermarket price for my 7700X (and possibly my old rig, which was a Z170 intel platform). Even if I kept my old processor, a top of the AMD line rig costs about $1250, memory capacity not withstanding. Of course, that says nothing about the additional electricity costs, and I understand that my prices are not obtainable in most of the world unfortunately, but I think $4000 is a stretch unless you needed a load of RAM (it'd be about $600 to max out my motherboard to 128GB).
    - ohgodplsno 4y ago
      Assuming you do not get deals: * $500 for a CPU (7800X starts at $450) * $60 for a cooler because the Wraith Prism is shit. * $200 for a motherboard, maybe $100 if you want to try to cheap out and get something that might have unstable voltages, shit PCIe bandwidth or no NVMe slots, etc. * $200 for 32GB of quality DDR5-4800 (or 5600 if you want to be fancy), and that's easily used up these days. * $200 for a quality 750W power supply * $100 for a case with good enough airflow, assuming you don't already have one. * $200+ for at least 1TB of NVMe storage, easily much more So, assuming a new build that didn't get incremental upgrades in the past, building a new, powerful PC these days is going to run you $1500. Without even picking any top of the line stuff. Guess what didn't get included in there ? GPUs with their bloody ridiculous prices. If you're going with NVidia, this 4000 generation is a waste if you're buying anything but the 4090. You could absolutely buy a 4080 (or rather a 4070Ti), or a 4070, but they're such a horrible deal in terms of price/performance. And that's going to cost you at the absolute least $800 (for a 4070, which is a dogshit card). Or you can try to find a series 3000, but that's also going to run you $1000+. If you're going with AMD, your problems are similar, for cards that are really subpar. As for Intel, well, let's just say an A770 with your high end CPU might cause a few bottlenecks here and there. So, yes, if you're lucky enough to find deals _and_ to have stuff that you can still use from an old, recent rig, sure, building a new PC isn't _that_ expensive. If you have to do major upgrades, you're looking at multiple thousands. Pulling that much money out in one go for something that is ultimately not extremely necessary is something that can only be afforded by a very small percentage of people.